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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:17 pm 
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The point is Tebow isn't any good but for some reason I don't totally understand, he has legions of fans who think he IS good.

You don't create a quarterback controversy by importing someone who isn't at least as good as the QB you've got.

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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:31 pm 
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Chico wrote:
The point is Tebow isn't any good but for some reason I don't totally understand, he has legions of fans who think he IS good.

You don't create a quarterback controversy by importing someone who isn't at least as good as the QB you've got.


And my point is there would have been a "Free Chad Henne" movement by week 3 if Sanchez didn't show improvement and get off to a good start, anyway. And I'll take Tebow on the roster over Henne - like I've said, at least Tebow does more than hold a clipboard.

If he does that, though (improve, good start, all that), the Tebow movement to be more than the gadget guy he was likely acquired to be would be stopped, too.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:32 pm 
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Steve The Original wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
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Sorry MJ. It's an awful trade. With so many needs to fill on this team they did not need to give up a valuable 4th round pick. It just smacks of more Woody Johnson BS, wanting to keep the team in the media spotlight and not caring about the overall talent of the team.


4th round picks really aren't that valuable.

2011: Bilal Powell
2010: Joe McKnight
2009: none
2008: Dwight Lowery
2007: none (the immortal Jacob Bender in the next round)
2006: Brad Smith

(kind of funny/ironic that Brad Smith is a former 4th rounder, right?)
These are all, at best, gadget/package/ST guys, which is what Tebow is. You can easily find role players like this on FA deals - not unlike how NE signs a guy like Marquise Cole for a minimum deal, and the level of production Cole gives you is what you'd expect from a 4th rounder.

Anyway, bottom line is, on a "win-now" team, which the Jets fancy themselves as, you're not bringing in a difference maker in the 4th round. Any production you get there in the short term is available on the current FA market.


By the way in the same 4th round they picked Brad Smith, they also picked Leon Washington and the year before they grabbed Kerry Rhodes.


Not the immortal Leon Washington!!

There is NO WAY the Jets can find a scat back/return man now...

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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:59 pm 
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MJ if you want to be argumentative to be argumentative that's all well and good. But Leon was an excellent player for the Jets until he got hurt.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:14 pm 
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But Leon was an excellent player for the Jets until he got hurt.


In a role that you can easily fill via FA, if thats the problem you're citing here.

Your argument is that the Jets just lost a valuable draft pick that they could've used to fill org depth. Well, 1 draft pick won't constitute depth, and if the best example of the last 6 or 7 drafts you can give is "We could've drafted a scat back there", then go sign Justin Forsett and be no worse for wear as far as your org depth is concerned.

In any meaningful way, the success or failures of the 2012 Jets was not going to hang on the 120th or so best player in the 2012 Draft.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:20 pm 
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Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
(2) If the Tebow trade to Jets falls apart, St. Louis could wind up getting back into play. Sides sorting through details.
5m Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade.

Welp, looks like we'll be able to round out that roster with the 4th round pick after all. I assume we'll fill the longstanding hole of impact edge rusher there.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:22 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
(2) If the Tebow trade to Jets falls apart, St. Louis could wind up getting back into play. Sides sorting through details.
5m Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Filed to ESPN (1): Denver and Jets have encountered hangup in language in Tim Tebow's contract that could nullify trade.

Welp, looks like we'll be able to round out that roster with the 4th round pick after all.


Oh Happy Day!!!! :-) I am praying to the g0d of Adam Schefter that his report is true!!!!


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:14 pm 
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I hope it goes through. I like Tim Tebow a lot. I am by no means a crazed Tebow fanatic however. I recognize his weaknesses -- like throwing the football. But, the whole package cannot be overlooked.

Quick: Who has the higher career QB rating? Tebow or Sanchez? Tebow. Both Tebow and Sanchez threw for 6.4 YPA last year. And Tebow runs and prays and would save your cat from a tree. I take Tebow over Sanchez everyday.

Most Jet fans expect Sanchez to get better at throwing, so why wouldn't Tebow as well?

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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:19 pm 
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MikeH wrote:
I hope it goes through. I like Tim Tebow a lot. I am by no means a crazed Tebow fanatic however. I recognize his weaknesses -- like throwing the football. But, the whole package cannot be overlooked.

Quick: Who has the higher career QB rating? Tebow or Sanchez? Tebow. Both Tebow and Sanchez threw for 6.4 YPA last year. And Tebow runs and prays and would save your cat from a tree. I take Tebow over Sanchez everyday.

Most Jet fans expect Sanchez to get better at throwing, so why wouldn't Tebow as well?


Neither guy has put up impressive throwing numbers to date. Jets fans usually justify Sanchez on the basis of "He's been good enough to go to back-to-back AFC Championships with" and/or "4 road playoff wins", which sounds like "WINZ!" to me. Which is essentially the argument that Tebow fans make that everybody mocks.

I think its likely neither guy is the next great Jet QB - but my point is more that I don't see any downside risk here.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:35 pm 
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What a joke:

"The Jets even announced the trade on their twitter feed. And th-e-e-e-e-e-n someone in Jets’ management decided to look at Tebow’s contract. The Jets were apparently in too much rush to make a news splash for their New York tabloids. They didn’t look at Tebow’s contract until after agreeing to the deal."

Yep, gotta hand it to Woody and Tanny...they are real thorough with this stuff.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2012/03/21/tebow-trade-finalized/12725/


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:40 pm 
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Well this adds a whole new dimension to this saga. Wait and see how this plays out.

I liked the deal (getting Tebow for a 4th), but screwing up contract/language issues will certainly draw my ire towards Tanny.


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 Post subject: Re: TEBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:46 pm 
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@AdamSchefter: More craziness filed to ESPN: Jaguars are back in the mix, seeing if they now can pull off a trade with Denver for Tebow.

I give it about a 99% chance this is a Elway/Denver leak while the contract folks are negotiating back and forth on the "snag".


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