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 Post subject: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:55 pm 
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Sean Payton suspended 1 year w/o pay.

Greg Williams (now w/ St. Louis) suspended INDEFINITELY, but at least for 2012 before reinstatement is considered.

Mickey Loomis suspended 8 games, 500K fine.

Saints as an org. fined 500K.

2012 and 2013 2nd round picks forfeited.

Wow.


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:57 pm 
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Question I have always had: how do you enforce coach/GM "suspensions"?

Whats stopping Sean Payton for having contact with his assistants and players away from facilities, breaking down tape and sending reports, etc - essentially, "coaching" while not physically being there?

And similarly, with Loomis, whats stopping him from instructing his assistants on who to go after and who to cut and what to spend, etc - even more in line with the day-to-day op's of his normal job anyway, only he won't be the actual one on the phones or the signature on the paper?


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:01 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Question I have always had: how do you enforce coach/GM "suspensions"?

Whats stopping Sean Payton for having contact with his assistants and players away from facilities, breaking down tape and sending reports, etc - essentially, "coaching" while not physically being there?

And similarly, with Loomis, whats stopping him from instructing his assistants on who to go after and who to cut and what to spend, etc - even more in line with the day-to-day op's of his normal job anyway, only he won't be the actual one on the phones or the signature on the paper?


Probably nothing. But if they are caught doing it well I would imagine the sanctions would be much much worse.


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:10 pm 
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There's been cheating in pro sports since, well , forever

The Saints got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:12 am 
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I think everyone imagined the picks and fines and some suspensions. However, I have never heard of a coach being suspended in this instance. Glad Goddell dropped the hammer on them.


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:35 am 
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I think the punishments will make people hide it better. There is always going to be motivation for hard hits. As a fan, I've heard countless people suggest that one player "take out" the opposing team's star so that their team can win.


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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:54 am 
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SHPIDA wrote:
I think the punishments will make people hide it better. There is always going to be motivation for hard hits. As a fan, I've heard countless people suggest that one player "take out" the opposing team's star so that their team can win.


The thing is, while the NFL should be pissed for "competition" reasons, the NFLPA should be freaking out. They have union guys essentially trying to ruin the careers of other members. Curious how the union is going to address this.

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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:46 pm 
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The only problem I have with the death penalties is that they needed to have expanded the investigations and penalties levied toward other organizations for these and other activities...

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 Post subject: Re: Saints sanctions
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:59 am 
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Wow. Vilma out all of 2012.


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