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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:01 pm 
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Reese all about the Tech players this draft. I like this pick a lot, almost as much as Randle


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:06 pm 
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MJ, I am really liking the way the draft is shaping up for the Jets. Hill may be the steal of the WRs in this draft outside of Michael Floyd, who I believe will end up as the best of the class. Not to mention, Davis seems like a kid Rex can coach up. He is a pretty blank canvas with good physical skills, room to grow, and a huge upside.


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:08 pm 
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So we go into day 3 with no OL picks. With that said, I like the Hosley pick.

And tonight was a painful viewing experience. ESPN made today the Russell Wilson Show.

Pats had a good draft sans that atypical Pats pick off the grid moment.

Vikes did well too.


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:41 pm 
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So we go into day 3 with no OL picks. With that said, I like the Hosley pick.

And tonight was a painful viewing experience. ESPN made today the Russell Wilson Show.

Pats had a good draft sans that atypical Pats pick off the grid moment.

Vikes did well too.


I am a big fan of what the Jags, Dolphins, Rams, and Colts did. The Jags got a real player in Blackmon to compete right away, albeit with limited upside while Branch could be a real steal. The Dolphins, along with the Rams, may have gotten the steal of day 2 in Glenn. He is mammoth tackle with the skills to play LT, however, is likely to be a RT. I think Tannehill has real ability to be this years Andy Dalton while being a Phillip Rivers long term. I really like him and his potential is sky high. The Rams seriously upgraded their D in a much needed way. While they didn't get Bradford any weapons, which they will need to address tomorrow, they got arguably the best DT in the draft in Brockers (to me it is Cox with Poe third) and then an outstanding CB in Jenkins, despite his HUGE character issues. Bradford really needs weapons. He has the chance to be a Matt Hasselback or better in this league with protection and a half-decent receiver. Jenkins, meanwhile, is the best pure cover man in this draft, a much better prospect than Pacman Jones, also drafted by Fisher who had terrible track record with him. A true boom-bust pick, however, I think in a strong locker room run by Stephen Jackson he will be fine. Ah the Colts. Easy to say they had a great draft taking the best QB prospect since the elder Manning, however, it was grabbing the best TE in the draft that puts them over the top. I am calling it now, Luck to Fleener will be every bit as dangerous as Brady-Gronk/Brees-Graham/Rivers-Gates. Fleener will not block a lick, but Luck gets a safety blanket, a big red zone target, and someone he has rapport already established. Luck-Fleener-Wayne, even with Wayne losing a step, will be a great combo. That is even without mentioning Dwayne Allen. While not a huge fan, having a combo of him and Fleener develop together will provide huge match-up issues for any team and was clearly a BPA case.

As for the local teams, I really do like the Jets' picks. Couples is perennially rated as the best DE in the draft. MJ, I know you do not like the pick due to Gholston comparisons, however, he does something the former never did: play the run. Couples is great against the run, can deliver a hit, has great instincts (also lacking by Gholston), and can impact the game when not rushing the passer with long arms. I actually do not see the Gholston comparison, personally. I watched a lot of ACC football going to school by VT and have followed ever since. Sure, Couples did take plays off and didn't also have the motor 100%, however, I wonder how much has to do with the Tar Heels facing disciplinary actions. Not to excuse him, but from what I saw he played with a nasty streak more often than not and wanted to win. For competitive athletes, playing for nothing is incredibly hard, especially in college. While the Jets do not have the strongest locker room offensively, at least, I think that the defense has a much stronger presence among each other. I doubt Bart Scott will allow him taking plays off. Plus, it is not often you find a DE taken so high whose pass rushing may not be top notch. Say what you want about Rex, he can certainly teach up players on how to pass rush. I think he will be a player. Think a Calais Campbell or Terrell Suggs.

As for as Hill, what can I say, I love him. He has perhaps the highest upside of any WR in the draft. I think Floyd will be best followed by either Hill or Wright. Blackmon will be a good #2 to me. Hill is still very raw when it comes to route running and using his body for positioning, however, he can stretch the field and is deceptively strong for his size; he can block very well. He will give the Jets a much needed deep threat and insurance for Holmes.

Davis, IMO, isn't the biggest on measurables but packs a huge punch in his frame. He is very strong, has great speed for a LB (4.6 speed), quick feet/readily able to transition, delivers the big hit with great technique, all the while possessing off the charts character and intangibles. In that sense, he is the anti-Couples, someone who will develop in a club house leader to replace Scott. However, he did play against below average competition, so he isn't as tested as some prospects. Being the big fish in a smaller pond, he got burnt at times trying to do everything for his team. I think this is the type of player the Jets sorely need in the locker room.

My Giants review will follow tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:49 am 
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And Jags take a punter......


NO Flippin way they did


........ just checked. they did. :lol:

You can bet your bottom dollar hes getting big boy money as a day 2 pick....for a punter of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:46 am 
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I love the Hill pick. If nothing else, he's that serious down-field blocker and homerun guy right away that Sparano keeps talking up (and has led to serious Braylon speculation) while he grows into that true Number 1 receiving threat.

I don't get the Davis pick AT ALL. Most have speculated its a Westhoff pick because he's supposed to be a special teams ace. THATS where you go with that pick!? And now, because you moved up 4 spots on a likely bluff to take Hill (fine, happens all the time), now its roster filler and lottery ticket time. Yuck.

Didn't address OL, Safety (probably the biggest immediate need) or really OLB at all. Coples isn't an OLB and Davis is a guy who apparently will transition from 4-3 outside to 3-4 inside, but mostly just be a special teams guy. Ugh Tannenbaum. You needed 3 HRs, you got a deep flyout, a double off the wall and an ill-timed sac bunt.


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:24 am 
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Back to positive thoughts...

I have no idea how they'd do it, but if the Jets come away with George Iloka somehow, giving you 3 likely starters out of this draft, the process was seemingly flawed but I'll be OK with the results.

Also sounds like Hunter is 99% out (at least as a starter) judging from Tanny comments yesterday. I'll trust he has a plan other than "Give Ducasse a Chance!"

But yeah, this has been a draft that does nothing to return any confidence in their abilities here after a couple of tough years in a row. Not sure if Clinkscales, who is on his way out, is to blame or Tanny/Rex's full-fledged move towards Al Davis-esque "Draft the Athlete, who cares about production!" is theirs and theirs alone, but I cannot say I'm happy sitting here now.


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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:28 pm 
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Rams fan here...firstly, the trading of picks and maneuvering was a necessary step. They have an opportunity to fill quite a few needs, take some risks, then still be able to build the next two years with extra picks.

2-day analysis
Brockers - adds to an already strong line with Langford, Long and Quinn...with Hayes on the periphery

Quick - I like the pick, though he may have been available later. I'd actually have liked two WRs in this round (or Fleener and a WR later on---maybe Quick with the 39th, Hill or Randle)

Jenkins - With all of the picks, having a character risk pick (by all accounts, Brockers, Pead and Quick are great kids) is not a bad thing...taken in that context, it was interesting. I had expected an OT. I liked Hayward better at CB, and Harden in the middle.

Pead - I liked it as interesting, but I think he would still have been there at 63. Hillman might have been a better pick, though Pead is definitely different than Jackson...

Johnson - CB; In the absence of Jenkins, this is a great pick. In the presence of Jenkins, this is a solid pick. Still no offensive line help

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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:44 pm 
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Hmmm looks like the Redskins are bringing in competition for RGIII :lol:


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Love the Givens pick at 4th round...

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 Post subject: Re: Official Teams-other-than-the-Giants Draft thread
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:28 pm 
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NeverGiveIn wrote:
Prospectus wrote:
And Jags take a punter......


NO Flippin way they did


........ just checked. they did. :lol:

You can bet your bottom dollar hes getting big boy money as a day 2 pick....for a punter of course.



I'll leave it here.


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