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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:04 pm 
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Of course, there's no doubt he was the guy in KC and some personnel moves were questionable, and perhaps more importantly, his coaching hires were dreadful.


No argument that Crennel is a proven awful HC. Haley's not bad and was given a very raw deal in KC. He won the division in 2010 and was fired mid-2011 even though Eric Berry tore his ACL in week 1 and Jamaal Charles tore his ACL in week 2.

When you lose your best offensive and defensive player it's kinda hard to win but Haley still had them at 4-3 before the roof caved in.

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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:16 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Of course, there's no doubt he was the guy in KC and some personnel moves were questionable, and perhaps more importantly, his coaching hires were dreadful.


No argument that Crennel is a proven awful HC. Haley's not bad and was given a very raw deal in KC. He won the division in 2010 and was fired mid-2011 even though Eric Berry tore his ACL in week 1 and Jamaal Charles tore his ACL in week 2.

When you lose your best offensive and defensive player it's kinda hard to win but Haley still had them at 4-3 before the roof caved in.


I believe that happened to the 2012 New York Jets. :P :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:25 pm 
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Nutsacjac wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Of course, there's no doubt he was the guy in KC and some personnel moves were questionable, and perhaps more importantly, his coaching hires were dreadful.


No argument that Crennel is a proven awful HC. Haley's not bad and was given a very raw deal in KC. He won the division in 2010 and was fired mid-2011 even though Eric Berry tore his ACL in week 1 and Jamaal Charles tore his ACL in week 2.

When you lose your best offensive and defensive player it's kinda hard to win but Haley still had them at 4-3 before the roof caved in.


Yeah I guess.

Haley's kind of a nut though - just not sure you can count on him being a rock of your organization. Didn't he allege that Pioli bugged his personal phone and all the offices or something when he was fired?

And btw - the Steeler offense took a huge step back this year, with Ben, than the Bruce Arians days.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:35 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Nutsacjac wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Of course, there's no doubt he was the guy in KC and some personnel moves were questionable, and perhaps more importantly, his coaching hires were dreadful.


No argument that Crennel is a proven awful HC. Haley's not bad and was given a very raw deal in KC. He won the division in 2010 and was fired mid-2011 even though Eric Berry tore his ACL in week 1 and Jamaal Charles tore his ACL in week 2.

When you lose your best offensive and defensive player it's kinda hard to win but Haley still had them at 4-3 before the roof caved in.


Yeah I guess.

Haley's kind of a nut though - just not sure you can count on him being a rock of your organization. Didn't he allege that Pioli bugged his personal phone and all the offices or something when he was fired?

And btw - the Steeler offense took a huge step back this year, with Ben, than the Bruce Arians days.

:?: :?:

Roethlisberger was having the best year of his career before the injury...


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:18 am 
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So the one downfall of the dragged out GM search is that it puts the coaching searches on the backburner for now, and you could lose out on preferred candidates.

Not that he was ever coming here, per reports, but Norv Turner is officially off the board, joining his friend Chud in Cleveland.

But good (bad?) news: Bob Sutton is going to KC, which apparently opens up a spot on the defensive staff that ROB RYAN is expected to be offered, per Manish Mehta.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:45 am 
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Everybody loved Mike Westhoff as of this morning, right?

Well, the Tebow-haters are about to have either a conflict of interest of an interesting decision to make re: Mike.

Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN
Mike Westhoff on Jets use of Tebow (via 560 WQAM): "It was an absolute mess. You can say it however else you want it: It was really a mess"

He apparently went off, per twitter.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:58 pm 
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Mehta tweets the Jets OC list includes Cam Cameron (meh), Marty Mornhinweg and Hue Jackson.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:04 pm 
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One new GM name:

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Profootballtalk reports the Jets have interviewed Packers VP of football administration and player finance Russ Ball for their general manager vacancy.
Ball has served as Ted Thompson's right-hand man in Green Bay since 2008. He is responsible for negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap, in addition to other daily tasks. The Jets' GM search has grown to nine candidates, but it has been reported that at least two of those have already turned down the financial mess.


And one new OC name:

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The Jets will interview Stanford OC Pep Hamilton for their offensive coordinator vacancy.
Hamilton has no coordinator experience on the NFL level, but did work as a quarterbacks coach with the Jets (1994-1995), 49ers (2006) and Bears (2007-2009). He has been at Stanford since 2010, first coaching the wide receivers and quarterbacks. He assumed the offensive coordinator job in 2011. The Jets reportedly also have an interview scheduled with ex-Ravens OC Cam Cameron.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:57 pm 
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Rotoworld:

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Appearing on FOX NFL Sunday, Jay Glazer said the Jets "can't give the position away" when talking about their general manager vacancy.

"They're calling back candidates who already turned them down," added Glazer. "Their cap situation, personnel, QB and the circus turned a lot of candidates off." One of those candidates could be 49ers director of player personnel Tom Gamble, who was once considered the odds-on-favorite for the job but may have spurned the Jets. ESPN's Adam Schefter mentioned earlier on Sunday that ex-Bears GM Jerry Angelo is a "name to watch."



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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:17 am 
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Cimini reported Angelo, Cohen and Khan are getting secoond looks.

I guess I'm rooting for Angelo? What happened at the end of his Bears tenure?

The other 2 are puppets for coaches: "I want this guy - make the numbers work" types. Not what we need - the interesting thing on Khan of course is the Cowher angle, but that should only serve to make this place a bigger circus than it already is.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:29 pm 
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One new GM name:

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Profootballtalk reports the Jets have interviewed Packers VP of football administration and player finance Russ Ball for their general manager vacancy.
Ball has served as Ted Thompson's right-hand man in Green Bay since 2008. He is responsible for negotiating player contracts and managing the salary cap, in addition to other daily tasks. The Jets' GM search has grown to nine candidates, but it has been reported that at least two of those have already turned down the financial mess.


And one new OC name:

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The Jets will interview Stanford OC Pep Hamilton for their offensive coordinator vacancy.
Hamilton has no coordinator experience on the NFL level, but did work as a quarterbacks coach with the Jets (1994-1995), 49ers (2006) and Bears (2007-2009). He has been at Stanford since 2010, first coaching the wide receivers and quarterbacks. He assumed the offensive coordinator job in 2011. The Jets reportedly also have an interview scheduled with ex-Ravens OC Cam Cameron.


Rotoworld


Ball + the CFL guy (forget his name), reported earlier on Sunday to have interviewed, were later debunked by the beat guys.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:38 am 
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Also add John Idzik, Seahawks VP of Administration to the GM candidates list.


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