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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:28 pm 
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Cimini now adds Gaine and Idzik to the "follow-up" list, and reports last night were Ted Sundquist, former GM of the Broncos during their heyday who resigned in 2007 and hasn't been in the game since, impressed in his interview.

I don't know how you even think to consider a guy like Sundquist, but it certainly speaks to Jay Glazer's reports that the usual suspects are turning the Jets down, not the other way around (speculation is that Gamble said no, hence why they moved on from him after seemingly moving towards finalizing their search with him over a week ago now).


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:46 pm 
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Cimini now adds Gaine and Idzik to the "follow-up" list, and reports last night were Ted Sundquist, former GM of the Broncos during their heyday who resigned in 2007 and hasn't been in the game since, impressed in his interview.

I don't know how you even think to consider a guy like Sundquist, but it certainly speaks to Jay Glazer's reports that the usual suspects are turning the Jets down, not the other way around (speculation is that Gamble said no, hence why they moved on from him after seemingly moving towards finalizing their search with him over a week ago now).


You're taking an awfully pessimistic view in my opinion. Just because Sundquist hasn't been in the game the last few years, it doesn't mean he's not an extremely qualified candidate. Does Gruden being out of the game for a few years make him unqualified to be a head coach? Sundquist has a stellar trade and draft record during his tenure in Denver.

Also, Gamble was reportedly extremely unimpressive in his interview with NY. He also hasn't had any interviews (other than SD?) for other GM openings.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:55 pm 
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Cimini now adds Gaine and Idzik to the "follow-up" list, and reports last night were Ted Sundquist, former GM of the Broncos during their heyday who resigned in 2007 and hasn't been in the game since, impressed in his interview.

I don't know how you even think to consider a guy like Sundquist, but it certainly speaks to Jay Glazer's reports that the usual suspects are turning the Jets down, not the other way around (speculation is that Gamble said no, hence why they moved on from him after seemingly moving towards finalizing their search with him over a week ago now).


You're taking an awfully pessimistic view in my opinion. Just because Sundquist hasn't been in the game the last few years, it doesn't mean he's not an extremely qualified candidate. Does Gruden being out of the game for a few years make him unqualified to be a head coach? Sundquist has a stellar trade and draft record during his tenure in Denver.

Also, Gamble was reportedly extremely unimpressive in his interview with NY. He also hasn't had any interviews (other than SD?) for other GM openings.


Thats a very tough comparison to make, considering every year Gruden turns down multiple overtures to keep his cushy commentating job.

Gang Green Nation's take on Sundquist: http://www.ganggreennation.com/2013/1/1 ... dates-list

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ESPN's Adam Schefter reports that former Broncos GM Ted Sundquist was "particularly impressive" in his Thursday interview and is a "sleeper candidate" for the same job with the Jets.
Sundquist, 50, has been out of the league since the end of the 2007 season, so the Jets would certainly be digging deep in the barrel of retreads.

I'm not exactly on an island here. Not saying he couldn't be great, but there's really very little doubt that he'd be in the mix if this was an attractive spot - they're searching for a diamond in the rough, rather than simply buying a diamond, which is what Jay Glazer has reported: no first tier candidates want the job.


Boomer and Carton had an interesting thought this morning: just promote Cohen for a year, tell him he has essentially a trial period in 2013 since nothing is really going to change next year with Rex and Sanchez ingrained - if he impressed with creativity and a good draft, he gets to reshape the team for 2014. If not, you bring in the outsider at that point, with something of a clean slate: Sanchez and Rex are likely gone.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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Marc Ross has withdrawn his name from the mix.

Unclear if he was even in the mix at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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Cimini tweets its down to Khan, Idzik and Cohen.

Uninspiring list considering everyone in the world says we need a personnel guru.

I'm starting to be of the mind that we just go with Cohen and call the spade that is 2013 a spade.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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Cimini tweets its down to Khan, Idzik and Cohen.

Uninspiring list considering everyone in the world says we need a personnel guru.

I'm starting to be of the mind that we just go with Cohen and call the spade that is 2013 a spade.


I think Idzik is a fantastic candidate.
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ohn Idzik begins his sixth season with the Seahawks after joining the club on February 16, 2007. With Seattle, Idzik oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations. In addition, he serves as the club’s primary liaison to the NFL Office and represents the club at League meetings.

Prior to joining the Seahawks, Idzik spent three seasons as Senior Director of Football Operations for the Arizona Cardinals, helping to build an eventual NFC champion. Idzik entered the NFL in 1993 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He spent 11 years with the Buccaneers, first as a Pro Personnel Assistant and then was elevated to Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant General Manager in 2001. Prior to his tenure with the Buccaneers, Idzik spent the 1991-92 seasons as a graduate assistant coach at Duke University, where he assisted with the offensive line and running backs. In 1990 he was the offensive backfield coach for the Aberdeen Oilers (Scotland) of the British American Football League. Idzik’s first coaching assignment came in 1982 as receivers coach at the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Raised in a football family, Idzik’s father, also John, was the head coach of the Aberdeen club after serving as an NFL assistant coach for the Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Colts, Philadelphia Eagles, and N.Y. Jets. They became one of the NFL’s few father-son Super Bowl champions in 2003 when the younger Idzik’s Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, as his father was the offensive backfield coach of the Super Bowl V champion Baltimore Colts.

A native of Detroit, Idzik graduated with magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa honors from Dartmouth College in 1982 earning a bachelor’s degree in mathematics, where he also played wide receiver for the Ivy League Champion Big Green. He later earned a master’s degree in liberal studies from Duke University in 1992.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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He has SOME personnel background, but minimal. He's a business-side/cap guy, which means Rex will still run the personnel side of things with Woody's stamp of approval - thats the issue with him.

If we needed a cap guy who could be in the room on scouting decisions, he'd be a slam dunk.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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He has SOME personnel background, but minimal. He's a business-side/cap guy, which means Rex will still run the personnel side of things with Woody's stamp of approval - thats the issue with him.

If we needed a cap guy who could be in the room on scouting decisions, he'd be a slam dunk.


Basically, the Jets fired Tannenbaum to bring in Seattle and Pittsburgh's version of Tannenbaum.

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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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Newsday reports that Ravens OC Cam Cameron will not be the Jets' next offensive coordinator.

Either Cameron took himself out of the running (less likely), or the Jets have narrowed their search and are closing in on a hire. Late in his Ravens tenure, Cameron's offense became archaic and he refused to adjust. He may be best served sitting out a year and picking up some nuances by simply watching games.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
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He has SOME personnel background, but minimal. He's a business-side/cap guy, which means Rex will still run the personnel side of things with Woody's stamp of approval - thats the issue with him.

If we needed a cap guy who could be in the room on scouting decisions, he'd be a slam dunk.


Basically, the Jets fired Tannenbaum to bring in Seattle and Pittsburgh's version of Tannenbaum.


Tannenbaum was an accountant who tagged along the football operations.

Idzik was a player and a coach at various levels, he's a football lifer as his father was a prominent coach-- I really don't think he's "Seattle's Tannenbaum" ....


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:26 am 
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He has SOME personnel background, but minimal. He's a business-side/cap guy, which means Rex will still run the personnel side of things with Woody's stamp of approval - thats the issue with him.

If we needed a cap guy who could be in the room on scouting decisions, he'd be a slam dunk.


Basically, the Jets fired Tannenbaum to bring in Seattle and Pittsburgh's version of Tannenbaum.


Tannenbaum was an accountant who tagged along the football operations.

Idzik was a player and a coach at various levels, he's a football lifer as his father was a prominent coach-- I really don't think he's "Seattle's Tannenbaum" ....



Tannenbaum is an accountant by undergraduate degree only. He is a lawyer by trade and worked in personnel departments when he started out.

Idzik's "coaching experience" is as follows:

1982- Receivers coach at SUNY Buffalo
1990- Offensive Backfield coach of the Aberdeen Oilers in Scotland of the British American Football League
1991-1992- Graduate Assistant Coach at Duke

He has since worked in front offices, with roles such as Director of Administration, Director of Operations, and his role in Seattle described as "oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations."

Like I said, there is SOME personnel side to him. But he is obviously a secondary voice in that respect. When Tannenbaum was Bradway's assistant, I'm nearly positive his job description looked exactly the same.


Every report has basically said since its Woody and Glat running the interviews, they are more comfortable with business side folks which is why the candidate list has begun to lean that way. Its really not a controversial position: Khan and Idzik are in here to the end seemingly because they impressed on that side of things. It would be extremely misleading to label either guy as some sort of master scout, great talent evaluator, etc.

Of the guys we interviewed for sure, it seemed like Angelo, Ross, Gamble and Caldwell were probably the top personnel minds. I don't know much about the CFL guy, Popp - he's a gamble I don't see us taking.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2012 Season Long Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:18 am 
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There's a good write up on Idzik over at thejetsblog.com. He's not really Tanny 2.0 and would make a pretty good hire. It's also rumored that he would bring in Jack Mula who helped construct the Patriots Super Bowl's.


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