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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:05 pm 
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Please don't trade Revis, even for the 31st and 34th picks.


I am resigned to the fact that Revis will be traded. Depending upon who they replace him with and who they get in the draft will determine if it was a good idea or not. It makes no sense to have the best starting CB in the league and have no one else.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:53 pm 
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David Carr will hit the FA market.

He seems to fit in nicely with what the Jets are doing at QB - that is, hoard guys who are worse than Sanchez.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:43 pm 
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Garrard, if healthy, is an upgrade.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:55 pm 
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thebull wrote:
Garrard, if healthy, is an upgrade.


He's 35 and hasn't taken a practice rep, let alone a snap, in 2 years.

2010's Garrard was better than 2012's Sanchez. But I'd love for my favorite teams to stop addressing glaring needs in years they wont be competitive with 35 yr olds and banking on 2010 production.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:29 pm 
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If Garrard turned in a good workout, I have no issues signing him.

The defense is going to be at the top of the league. Best case scenario, Garrard provides a solid one-year stopgap while the Jets fight through their cap issues. Worst case scenario, he doesn't make the team.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:52 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
thebull wrote:
Garrard, if healthy, is an upgrade.


He's 35 and hasn't taken a practice rep, let alone a snap, in 2 years.

2010's Garrard was better than 2012's Sanchez. But I'd love for my favorite teams to stop addressing glaring needs in years they wont be competitive with 35 yr olds and banking on 2010 production.


He seemed to be practicing in Hard Knocks and was going to be the starter over Tannehill.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:54 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
thebull wrote:
Garrard, if healthy, is an upgrade.


He's 35 and hasn't taken a practice rep, let alone a snap, in 2 years.

2010's Garrard was better than 2012's Sanchez. But I'd love for my favorite teams to stop addressing glaring needs in years they wont be competitive with 35 yr olds and banking on 2010 production.


Also, with our cap issues we probably can't bring in a clear upgrade to Sanchez, so bringing in the best of the vets might be best.

And "won't be competitive"? That's absurd to say now. We could easily have a top 5 defense and this is the NFL where nothing is set in stone from season to season.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:40 pm 
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The Seattle Times suggests the Jets might be Matt Flynn's "most likely suitor" on the trade market.
The Seahawks would likely be willing to accept a late-round pick for a backup quarterback owed $5.25 million, $2 million of which is guaranteed. It can't hurt that new Jets GM John Idzik was in Seattle's front office when Flynn's contract was negotiated and has an idea of Flynn's value. Flynn would be a solid fit for Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast scheme.

This is what we should be looking at, not Geriatric Garrard and Brady Freaking Quinn. Unfortunately, this is from the Seattle press, not the local guys, who have repeatedly said Flynn will be too rich for the Jets.

BTW, take Sanchez out of the equation and host a QB "competition" between Garrard, Quinn, McElroy and Simms....and Tim Tebow, and Tebow wins that competition, folks.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:28 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
The Seattle Times suggests the Jets might be Matt Flynn's "most likely suitor" on the trade market.
The Seahawks would likely be willing to accept a late-round pick for a backup quarterback owed $5.25 million, $2 million of which is guaranteed. It can't hurt that new Jets GM John Idzik was in Seattle's front office when Flynn's contract was negotiated and has an idea of Flynn's value. Flynn would be a solid fit for Jets offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg's West Coast scheme.

This is what we should be looking at, not Geriatric Garrard and Brady Freaking Quinn. Unfortunately, this is from the Seattle press, not the local guys, who have repeatedly said Flynn will be too rich for the Jets.

BTW, take Sanchez out of the equation and host a QB "competition" between Garrard, Quinn, McElroy and Simms....and Tim Tebow, and Tebow wins that competition, folks.


I agree on Flynn, but why do you think Tebow would beat out Garrard in a competition? Garrard has never actually declined while playing, he's just been injured for a couple of seasons. And he was going to be Miami's starting QB over Moore and Tannehill last season if he didn't need to get his knee scoped.


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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 8:34 pm 
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I think the Jets know they're stuck with Sanchez until his contract expires (or at least until they can release him without taking a huge cap hit--I'm not sure if that's even possible).

A guy like Garrard would be signed to bridge the time between now and the Sanchez emancipation without locking up another huge chunk of the cap at one position.

It's bad enough now, but it would be malpractice to add another high-priced QB with all the holes that need to be filled.

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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
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I'm also really torn on trading a future Hall of Famer when he's at his lowest value.

But he's also one of those players who's unhappy with his contract practically from the day he signs it (in fairness, based on the number of "misunderstandings" during his tenure, I think Mr T either lied to players and their agents, or phrased his "promises" in a way that were easy to misinterpret; maybe things will be different with Idzik).

I actually think the Jets can have a pretty good defense without Revis and I'm really tired of all the drama surrounding this team.

But I'm troubled by the sense that trading him is not driven by football sense and there's certainly no guarantee that the circus is going to fold its tents any time soon, regardless of what happens with Revis.

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 Post subject: Re: New York Jets 2013 Off Season Thread
PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:34 am 
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I'm also really torn on trading a future Hall of Famer when he's at his lowest value.

But he's also one of those players who's unhappy with his contract practically from the day he signs it (in fairness, based on the number of "misunderstandings" during his tenure, I think Mr T either lied to players and their agents, or phrased his "promises" in a way that were easy to misinterpret; maybe things will be different with Idzik).

I actually think the Jets can have a pretty good defense without Revis and I'm really tired of all the drama surrounding this team.

But I'm troubled by the sense that trading him is not driven by football sense and there's certainly no guarantee that the circus is going to fold its tents any time soon, regardless of what happens with Revis.


Can they have a pretty good defense without him, both their safeties and 0 legit outside linebackers? Because thats what their defense would look like the minute they trade him - thats a lot of holes to fill in a draft.


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