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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:04 pm 
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Blasting a guy coming off the high ankle sprain is a bit short sighted. Milliner actually made some very nice plays in the short area, demonstrating great awareness (something Kyle Wilson never does). He was specifically beat when he had to re-accelerate .. and he looked slow compared to how fast we know he is ... this is almost entirely due to the high ankle sprain.

Calvin Pryor taking all kinds of bad angles didn't help.

I thought they should have left Walls and Allen in to play more snaps .. I hope playing Milliner now doesn't delay his recovery to full strength.


I'm blasting a guy coming off an ankle sprain after an awful rookie season after he was drafted to replace, IMMEDIATELY, the best defensive player in franchise history.

This whole "it takes time" thing is not the pace at which the NFL plays. Shelf lives are so short on a lot of these guys that if they need years to get to a certain level, they're not worth the investment because so many things can happen on the way up. And if the crux of the argument is "he hasn't been full strength" then that was a knock on him pre-draft and should've been more closely considered.


You're going to hold Milliner to Revis's standard? Well that's just silly.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:14 pm 
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Jets getting jobbed by the refs.

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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:09 pm 
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Eric Decker allowed to play, likely made his minor hamstring issue a major one.

Excellent. The good news is Idziks offseason has left us in a great position to pursue all the attractive current FA options.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:10 pm 
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jamaicanjetfan wrote:
MarkJohnson>You wrote:
jamaicanjetfan wrote:
Blasting a guy coming off the high ankle sprain is a bit short sighted. Milliner actually made some very nice plays in the short area, demonstrating great awareness (something Kyle Wilson never does). He was specifically beat when he had to re-accelerate .. and he looked slow compared to how fast we know he is ... this is almost entirely due to the high ankle sprain.

Calvin Pryor taking all kinds of bad angles didn't help.

I thought they should have left Walls and Allen in to play more snaps .. I hope playing Milliner now doesn't delay his recovery to full strength.


I'm blasting a guy coming off an ankle sprain after an awful rookie season after he was drafted to replace, IMMEDIATELY, the best defensive player in franchise history.

This whole "it takes time" thing is not the pace at which the NFL plays. Shelf lives are so short on a lot of these guys that if they need years to get to a certain level, they're not worth the investment because so many things can happen on the way up. And if the crux of the argument is "he hasn't been full strength" then that was a knock on him pre-draft and should've been more closely considered.


You're going to hold Milliner to Revis's standard? Well that's just silly.


God forbid the 8th overall pick have done anything 20 games into his career. How dare I.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 10:26 am 
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Boy is watching Geno like watching the latter days of Sanchez. He has yet to learn from his mistakes and I'm not sure he ever will.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:55 pm 
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I'm not entirely sure who Phillip Adams is (other than the current wearer of Revis' 24) or where we got him from, but I would be happy if we didn't see any more of him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:55 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
Eric Decker allowed to play, likely made his minor hamstring issue a major one.

Excellent. The good news is Idziks offseason has left us in a great position to pursue all the attractive current FA options.


Apparently, Decker took himself out before risking further injury because he couldn't get loose. So, hopefully, crisis avoided here.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:26 pm 
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This was as frustrating a loss as the Jets have had in quite sometime. Maybe some of you hated the Packer loss more, but this one really bothered me. The Jets should've won this game going away.

So many mistakes from the Geno pick-six to start the game to his second INT, which was a horrific decision, to the Saunders muffed punt to Antonio Allen failing to catch the dying quail for the INT to the poor play calling to the misuse of Ivory (no touches in 4th quarter).

Then you factor in the two huge calls that went against the Jets. Terrible PI on Walls, unfortunate whistle on the Cutler fumble (refs are supposed to let that play out if it's close).

Then with no Decker the Jets are basically attacking the beleaguered Bears secondary with Kerley and...well, just Kerley.

The defense played pretty well, but couldn't capitalize on a couple of chances to make a big play (what else is new?) and of course blew a coverage in a big spot (seems to have been Phillip Adams' fault) and of course couldn't get off the field on 3rd down late in the game.

PFF grades:
Mo Wilkerson: +3.9
Sheldon Richardson: +2.5
Nick Mangold: +2.0 (8th positive game in a row dating back to last year)
Geno Smith: -3.8


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:46 pm 
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This was as frustrating a loss as the Jets have had in quite sometime. Maybe some of you hated the Packer loss more, but this one really bothered me. The Jets should've won this game going away.

So many mistakes from the Geno pick-six to start the game to his second INT, which was a horrific decision, to the Saunders muffed punt to Antonio Allen failing to catch the dying quail for the INT to the poor play calling to the misuse of Ivory (no touches in 4th quarter).

Then you factor in the two huge calls that went against the Jets. Terrible PI on Walls, unfortunate whistle on the Cutler fumble (refs are supposed to let that play out if it's close).

Then with no Decker the Jets are basically attacking the beleaguered Bears secondary with Kerley and...well, just Kerley.

The defense played pretty well, but couldn't capitalize on a couple of chances to make a big play (what else is new?) and of course blew a coverage in a big spot (seems to have been Phillip Adams' fault) and of course couldn't get off the field on 3rd down late in the game.

PFF grades:
Mo Wilkerson: +3.9
Sheldon Richardson: +2.5
Nick Mangold: +2.0 (8th positive game in a row dating back to last year)
Geno Smith: -3.8


If only there were a way we could have improved our receiving corps...


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:48 pm 
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I wish Shaq Evans hadn't gotten hurt.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 4:16 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
sluger11787 wrote:
This was as frustrating a loss as the Jets have had in quite sometime. Maybe some of you hated the Packer loss more, but this one really bothered me. The Jets should've won this game going away.

So many mistakes from the Geno pick-six to start the game to his second INT, which was a horrific decision, to the Saunders muffed punt to Antonio Allen failing to catch the dying quail for the INT to the poor play calling to the misuse of Ivory (no touches in 4th quarter).

Then you factor in the two huge calls that went against the Jets. Terrible PI on Walls, unfortunate whistle on the Cutler fumble (refs are supposed to let that play out if it's close).

Then with no Decker the Jets are basically attacking the beleaguered Bears secondary with Kerley and...well, just Kerley.

The defense played pretty well, but couldn't capitalize on a couple of chances to make a big play (what else is new?) and of course blew a coverage in a big spot (seems to have been Phillip Adams' fault) and of course couldn't get off the field on 3rd down late in the game.

PFF grades:
Mo Wilkerson: +3.9
Sheldon Richardson: +2.5
Nick Mangold: +2.0 (8th positive game in a row dating back to last year)
Geno Smith: -3.8


If only there were a way we could have improved our receiving corps...


And to think with a competent QB they would be 3 and 0. Geno has really disappointed me so far.


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 Post subject: Re: 2014 New York Jets Season-long Thread
PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:04 am 
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“@AdamSchefter: Disenchantment with some in Jets orgn about how conservative GM John Idzik was not more aggressive in off-season. Jets still 21.2M under cap”

Wow, someone totally should have thought about this before now, huh?

Guess those in the Jets org don't get that they are not "win now". Don't want to get saddled with those iron clad NFL contracts.


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