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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 10:08 am 
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uapeople wrote:
somebody that can play!

we beat the celtics and lost to a 4 and 30 team!

we need a 2 guard or a fast shotblocker!


2 guards are easier to find.

Greg Monroe looks like he could fit well in the D'Antoni system. But i think the main goal is to find a true PG.

D'Antoni has turned Duhon an avg PG into a good PG. If the Knicks could get a true PG who can distribute as well as make his own shot then the team starts to move into another level. Look what he did for Nash. That's why i say Hinrich is the perfect fit not because he is white but because he should be available with the Bulls having Rose and has similar numbers to Nash when he was in Dallas. Nash was even playing Nellie ball in dallas so his numbers would be up from that as well.

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This pick IMHO is MASSIVE!!!

Funny I gave up here b/c I didn't think there were a lot of Hardwood fans on NYFS but you guys make good points...

Objectives should be, for lack of a better word, SUK this year and gain a higher pick...Go all out next next year to win...

It's essential

Donnie rebuilt an aging contender into a young contender in what??? 18 months?? That's awesome!!

Now does he have the same (yet different) vision here?

I hope so and I miraculously think this time Dolan will not interept (reports are Dolan would not go against a Camby acquisition)

If we could deal Curry ( if he got in shape we should use him like Zach/Craw- pad the stats) then package Jefferies with Lee for a draft pick, we may have a shot at 3 max players next year.

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Lebron, Wade and Bosh could win a Championship with me and Nitey playing along side them...


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everygame the knicks play is a rerun!

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if we trade Lee we better get a lottery pick ... he is putting up borderline allstar type numbers

this draft isn't that strong but if we get 2 lottery picks we can get 2 nice building blocks and an extra chance to get that #1 pick. Blake Griffin who will most likely be that #1 pick is the only legitimate can't miss player in the draft...


other kids that i like ...
brandon jennings(PG) - probably the best pure point guard in the draft, he's playing in europe, he's got a lot of flash and athleticism, he would thrive in a run and gun dantoni system.

stephen curry(PG) - i love this kid ...probably not a pure point guard but i think he would do well in a run and gun system also.

Greg Monroe(PF) - great size and strength ... can store inside and can pass pretty well for a big man.

James Harden/Demar Derozen/Gerald Henderson(SG): all 3 are legit shooting guards. Harden is the safe pick ... has all the skills required of an excellent 2 guard. Can shoot mid range/long range, can get to the hoop, can play off screens, pass, rebound, play D(steals) ...but he won't blow you away with athleticism. DeMar Derozen, a freshman, has huge upside with excellent athleticism but has raw skills. Gerald Henderson is finally coming into his own ... he is a cross between Derozen and Harden... he is athletic and has solid skills... but he doesn't excel in either.

Hasheem Thabeet(C): Hasheem the dream would be a huge defensive presence in the middle


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bygranddesign wrote:
if we trade Lee we better get a lottery pick ... he is putting up borderline allstar type numbers

this draft isn't that strong but if we get 2 lottery picks we can get 2 nice building blocks and an extra chance to get that #1 pick. Blake Griffin who will most likely be that #1 pick is the only legitimate can't miss player in the draft...


other kids that i like ...
brandon jennings(PG) - probably the best pure point guard in the draft, he's playing in europe, he's got a lot of flash and athleticism, he would thrive in a run and gun dantoni system.

stephen curry(PG) - i love this kid ...probably not a pure point guard but i think he would do well in a run and gun system also.

Greg Monroe(PF) - great size and strength ... can store inside and can pass pretty well for a big man.

James Harden/Demar Derozen/Gerald Henderson(SG): all 3 are legit shooting guards. Harden is the safe pick ... has all the skills required of an excellent 2 guard. Can shoot mid range/long range, can get to the hoop, can play off screens, pass, rebound, play D(steals) ...but he won't blow you away with athleticism. DeMar Derozen, a freshman, has huge upside with excellent athleticism but has raw skills. Gerald Henderson is finally coming into his own ... he is a cross between Derozen and Harden... he is athletic and has solid skills... but he doesn't excel in either.

Hasheem Thabeet(C): Hasheem the dream would be a huge defensive presence in the middle


Lee is a nice player but his numbers are good because of the system. Just like Marion. I'd have no problem dealing him. he has a great motor and fun to watch but i think his numbers would be replaced.

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Lee reminds me a lot of Charles Oakley.

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tejdog1 wrote:
Lee reminds me a lot of Charles Oakley.


Sorry but he is nothing like Oakley.

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tejdog1 wrote:
Lee reminds me a lot of Charles Oakley.


Sorry but he is nothing like Oakley.


Gotta +1 here. Oakley was an enforcer and a terrific rebounder and presence.

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ndfordarling wrote:
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tejdog1 wrote:
Lee reminds me a lot of Charles Oakley.


Sorry but he is nothing like Oakley.


Gotta +1 here. Oakley was an enforcer and a terrific rebounder and presence.

And their styles were different too. Lee's rebounds are all about jumping, Oakley's was about strength and positioning. Lee can finish well and can drive with a developing mid range jumper. Oakley developed a decent mid range jumper er... set shot.

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Lee is actually a better rebounder than Oak "statistically"...

But comparing the two based on eras and styles and the levels of the teams they played on it is a wash at best...personally I believe Oak was the better rebounder..

Defensively it is not even a debate...

Offensively, Oak's last 3-4 years with the Knicks he had a great 15 and even 20 foot J that was incredibly constistent

Intimidation/Leadership/Intangibles/Toughness Oak was the guy

Hey I love David Lee but the Oak-dog comparisons are so far fetched...

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looks like the Knicks do like curry ...i thought they would

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i have a feeling the knicks will get stephen curry

he can fit nicely in a d'antoni run and gun system

and he would play off Lebron well ... getting lots of open jumpshots


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Meh,,,I'd trade down

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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