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 Post subject: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:46 am 
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They led by as many as 18 points at Minnesota and folded in the 4th quarter against a team that's not very good.

Devin Harris looked like someone who missed most of the preseason, so they'll probably get more out of him.

Even so, you have to win the winnable games and they blew one in the opener.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:00 am 
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Yeah, I do not see us being very good. Tonight was not a good start to the season.

We had some good individual efforts though. Brook Lopez had a great game. Terrence Williams showed some flashes. I think he can be a special player in this league. And Yi played pretty tough. He flushed a couple dunks and fought hard for a couple boards.

The team has some good young talent. It is definitely a rebuilding year, but there are pieces that will help in the future. I would say the Nets win 20 games or so.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:52 am 
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Another dreadful loss for the Nets against Charlotte.

Twenty wins might be a real stretch.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:50 pm 
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For many years I used to imagine how great a team the Knicks and Nets would make if they were combined (started thinking about it as a kid eventually it became part of drinking convo's w/friends lol).

Ewing/Oak/Starks with Coleman, Petro and Anderson...

Houston/Spree/Camby with Cassell, J-Will and Van Horn..

Kidd/Martin/Jefferson with Houston, Thomas..(er..not Starbury)

Now I'm not so sure they're even a playoff team combined...

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:27 pm 
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And we rejoin the still winless Nets, who, if they don't beat the woeful Knicks on Saturday, could go a long time before facing another plausibly winnable game.

They've been credited for generally playing hard, but we're starting to see more and more leaks in their approach.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:03 pm 
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Chico wrote:
And we rejoin the still winless Nets, who, if they don't beat the woeful Knicks on Saturday, could go a long time before facing another plausibly winnable game.

They've been credited for generally playing hard, but we're starting to see more and more leaks in their approach.


They are playing hard. Playing 7-8 guys for weeks at a time is hard on a team. Fatigue and guys playing out of position have really hurt us. Terrence Williams is not a point guard, but has had to play it on multiple occasions.

We are a young team. There will be plenty of mistakes made. But we have some intriguing talent.

We may be looking at the #1 overall pick.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:07 pm 
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MikeH wrote:
Chico wrote:
And we rejoin the still winless Nets, who, if they don't beat the woeful Knicks on Saturday, could go a long time before facing another plausibly winnable game.

They've been credited for generally playing hard, but we're starting to see more and more leaks in their approach.


They are playing hard. Playing 7-8 guys for weeks at a time is hard on a team. Fatigue and guys playing out of position have really hurt us. Terrence Williams is not a point guard, but has had to play it on multiple occasions.

We are a young team. There will be plenty of mistakes made. But we have some intriguing talent.

We may be looking at the #1 overall pick.


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tejdog1 wrote:
MikeH wrote:
Chico wrote:
And we rejoin the still winless Nets, who, if they don't beat the woeful Knicks on Saturday, could go a long time before facing another plausibly winnable game.

They've been credited for generally playing hard, but we're starting to see more and more leaks in their approach.


They are playing hard. Playing 7-8 guys for weeks at a time is hard on a team. Fatigue and guys playing out of position have really hurt us. Terrence Williams is not a point guard, but has had to play it on multiple occasions.

We are a young team. There will be plenty of mistakes made. But we have some intriguing talent.

We may be looking at the #1 overall pick.


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Huh?

Nets know how to run a franchise. This ain't the Knicks.

The Nets actually have their own pick in 2010 and the Mavericks first rounder as well to finish the Jason Kidd deal.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:37 pm 
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The big short-term question for the Nets, IMO, is that they keep competing.

So far, they've generally played hard, but they've been outmanned.

The problem in sports is that with little (or in this case, no) positive re-enforcement, things tend to break down because it's easier to not play hard than it is to play hard. When that happens, there's no hope at all.

It's a huge task for the coaches to keep them playing hard and focused in the face of the losing.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:19 pm 
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MikeH wrote:
tejdog1 wrote:
MikeH wrote:
Chico wrote:
And we rejoin the still winless Nets, who, if they don't beat the woeful Knicks on Saturday, could go a long time before facing another plausibly winnable game.

They've been credited for generally playing hard, but we're starting to see more and more leaks in their approach.


They are playing hard. Playing 7-8 guys for weeks at a time is hard on a team. Fatigue and guys playing out of position have really hurt us. Terrence Williams is not a point guard, but has had to play it on multiple occasions.

We are a young team. There will be plenty of mistakes made. But we have some intriguing talent.

We may be looking at the #1 overall pick.


Utah

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Huh?

Nets know how to run a franchise. This ain't the Knicks.

The Nets actually have their own pick in 2010 and the Mavericks first rounder as well to finish the Jason Kidd deal.


I meeant Utah's getting the #1 pick.

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I'm not always the biggest Steve Somers fan, because I think the nice guy schtick tends to mask some of the most downright harmful misinformation that makes its way onto the FAN airwaves, especially where the Mets are concerned.

But Somers came on after the Nets' game last night and did a creative riff on how they left him with no audience, despite the fact that the station goes to something like 38 states and as far south as Cuba at night.

Anyway, he was saying the Nets PR guy refuses to book any Nets guests when Sommers is on because Steve jokes about their futility and calls them the "empty Nets" and the "Nyets".

If he's telling the truth, it's a big mistake for the Nets, IMO. It's petty behavior they can ill afford, since WFAN is their flagship station, they are the #2 team in the market and he'll only tease them more if they try to "punish" him.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:42 pm 
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I heard that too, Chico. Kind of funny. Kind of not.

Who in their right mind thought this team would be any good? I predicted 20 or so wins, and now that is looking bleak. The Nets are who we thought they were. A young team looking to add a superstar in 2010. And then add the fact that they have had some tough injuries, and this 0-15 start actually makes sense.

I think the future is promising. We have pretty good depth at the guard positions with Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Terrence Williams, Rafer Alston, and Chris Douglas-Roberts. Then add in Keyon Dooling when he returns. All are pretty good players. Rafer, who would be the our 3rd string point guard with a healthy squad, started for a team that played in the NBA Finals last year. Dooling is an excellent defender who can shoot the ball pretty well. CDR is making a case that he can start for a good team and score the ball. Courtney Lee has been a disappointment thus far, but he has the reputation of being a good defender and has shown he can get to the rim. Then I think TWill and Devin have the potential to be stars. Terrence can do anything on a basketball court. And we all know about Devin. Only question surrounding him is if he can stay on the court.

The team lacks depth in the front court. It is a shame Yi is not on the court to show what he can do, but I am not sure if he is the answer at PF going forward. He cannot protect the hoop, even though he is a legitimate scoring option. PF will have to be addressed in the offseason, and can be done in a big way. I think we will sign one superstar to a max deal and hope it is a big man. Bosh or Amare immediately come to mind. Then Thorn and Kiki have to add depth. It shouldn't be hard to find high energy guys and solid rebounders.

One problem with our guards is their inability to stretch the floor. We have had trouble knocking down the long range shot. All can drive pretty well, but without shooters around them the defense doesn't have to respect the 3 point shot that much. This has limited the effectiveness of Brook Lopez and really the entire squad.

There are going to be some interesting changes made before next year. I think we need to better define the roles of CDR, TWill, and Courtney Lee going forward. Maybe deal Rafer to a contender.

Anyway, I think tonight is the night we break into the win column.

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