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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:44 am 
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Nets know how to run a franchise. This ain't the Knicks.



There are at least 20-30 punchlines that popped into my head reading this but I'll lay low being you're a fellow Met fan..

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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I think the future is promising. We have pretty good depth at the guard positions with Devin Harris, Courtney Lee, Terrence Williams, Rafer Alston, and Chris Douglas-Roberts. Then add in Keyon Dooling when he returns. All are pretty good players.


I think they have good young talent but they need a couple of vets if not a potential leader to be brought in (not talking star player per se)

They should take a lesson from the late 90's teams. Some of the more interesting Net teams post-Coleman/Kenny and my man "bada-bing" Petro and Pre-Kidd/K-Mart/RJ was a spectacular "throw it to the wall and see what sticks" bunch that was thrown together seemingly overnight.

Among the players they found to be keepers where Kendall Gill and Sam Cassell who was exactly what that team needed as they built through the draft with Kittles and Van Horn while they ran with the late blooming Jason Williams (a fav of mine who's become a tragic figure).
(Cassell/Kittles/Gill/Van Horn/Williams was a pretty entertaining team and a pretty good one that while not exactly a threat to the '98 Bulls, played them very well in the 1st round and gained respect throughout the league, even from Knick fans)


In keeping with the plan of building from the draft and giving their young players opportunities they need to find 2-3 players with both NBA experience and success much like Cassell and Gill back then.

It's very difficult to throw 12 20 year old kids out on the floor everynight in the NBA no matter how much talent they may have or what their potential is. The Bulls learned this the hard way. The team they could have put together if they'd have kept a Pippen, Harper, Kukoc, Horace (or Rodman lol) as they brought in the Artests and Brands and Chandler's and Gordon's and Crawfords and Curry's. Could have been a much different picture for them as well.

But this time is for the young players to get their feet wet even if they'e losing. Next summer the plan should be to bring in a star or two obviously but also to continue nurturing the young talent and bringing in some players with leadership abilities.

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MarkJohnson>You wrote:

Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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I'm not saying this simply because of what he did against the Bulls last night, but Devin Harris is starting to come around.

I've seen the last couple of games and you're starting to see a player who resembles the all-star we saw since he came over in the Kidd trade.

It's not just the quickness coming back, but he's starting to feel his shot, too.


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Daaaarryyl wrote:
MikeH wrote:


Nets know how to run a franchise. This ain't the Knicks.



There are at least 20-30 punchlines that popped into my head reading this but I'll lay low being you're a fellow Met fan..


Awww. C'mon. Lay them on.

I'll start:
Nets know how to run a franchise...into the ground.

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We lost to the Knicks...twice.

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I'm not saying this simply because of what he did against the Bulls last night, but Devin Harris is starting to come around.

I've seen the last couple of games and you're starting to see a player who resembles the all-star we saw since he came over in the Kidd trade.

It's not just the quickness coming back, but he's starting to feel his shot, too.


I don't think he is there, yet. He doesn't have his full assortment of moves that I got accustomed to seeing last year. His pull-up jump shot has not been falling. And he is getting to the rim, but either missing tough layups or not getting fouled. Last year, Devin would throw down with moves on top of moves either in transition or driving to the hoop. It just isn't there yet. But, he is close. I would give him another week.

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Now 3-30.

They're a better team with their full roster, but they're still historically bad.


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I don't think there's much doubt they'll set the all-time record for fewest wins.

The players are stealing money now. Not only are they bad, but they don't even play hard a lot of the time. They never play hard on defense.

To get blown out by a Golden State team that had 4 D-League players should be a source of great shame.


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up 51-41 over the Clippers right now

Can they hold on and win here or are they looking to set a new record again? :lol:


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Got the win last night against the Clippers.

Kris Humphries played extremely well and actually has played well in his short time here. In his 7 games so far he is getting an average of 24:30 minutes playing time, shooting 51.5% from the field, grabbing 6.9 rebounds, and scoring 14.0 points per game. He has been excellent in his role off the bench and maybe he can be the Nets energy big man for the future. All good teams have them, and Hump fits the mold.

Terrence Williams has been getting playing time in the last 4 games and has looked good. There is no question the sky is the limit for TWill, but it has been a struggle thus far. Well, last night was the best game I have seen him play. He was 3-7 from the field for 7 points (4 of the 7 points were on highlight reel dunks), brought down 9 rebounds, dished out 8 assists, and only had 1 turnover in 31 minutes of court time. Ian Eagle commented that his teammates and coaches were very impressed with TWill's practices last week, so maybe he is putting it together. All I ask is that Kiki keeps throwing minutes his way so as not to stunt his development.

And now on to Amare. Some rumors out of Phoenix say the Nets are interested in acquiring him before the Feb. 18th trading deadline. The package that is being floated around would center around Yi. The Nets would then add in another young player like CDR, Courtney Lee, or Terrence Williams. And then, possibly, a pick coming from the Nets. And then to make the salaries work, the Nets would have to include someone like Bobby Simmons or Tony Battie. Obviously this is speculation, but Yi, Bobby Simmons, and a pick would work according to ESPN Trade Machine. I think the Nets have the pieces to get Amare and I think I would pull the trigger. I hope we can keep CDR and Twill to get it done, but I may still be willing to do it even if one of them is included.

A 2010-2011 lineup of John Wall, Devin Harris, CDR, Amare, and Brook does not look so bad to me. Then Dooling, TWill, Hump off the bench.

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Unfortunately there's only a 25% chance that John Wall will be a Net.


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Unfortunately there's only a 25% chance that John Wall will be a Net.


But we can't fall out of the top 4, correct? If so, then that is fine. This is a pretty deep draft. Wes Johnson would be a great fit. Evan Turner may end up being the best player in the draft. Derrick Favors would help the Nets and could study under Amare.

A top 3 pick would be perfect for this team. Imagine pick and roll with Devin and Amare, Wes Johnson in the corner and Brook looking to cleanup the scraps.

The future is bright for the Nets. Just give it a couple years.

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MikeH wrote:
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Unfortunately there's only a 25% chance that John Wall will be a Net.


But we can't fall out of the top 4, correct? If so, then that is fine. This is a pretty deep draft. Wes Johnson would be a great fit. Evan Turner may end up being the best player in the draft. Derrick Favors would help the Nets and could study under Amare.

A top 3 pick would be perfect for this team. Imagine pick and roll with Devin and Amare, Wes Johnson in the corner and Brook looking to cleanup the scraps.

The future is bright for the Nets. Just give it a couple years.


yea your guaranteed a top 3 i believe

you shoulda kept Lawrence "Lil General" Frank on board. Don't know why Kiki deserves inherit John Wall


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