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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:41 am 
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The lottery only determines the top 3 picks. If the Nets finish the season with the worst record, they will have a 25% chance at getting the 1st pick, a 21.5% chance at the second pick, and a 17.8% chance at the 3rd pick.

If the Nets miss out in the lottery, they would get the 4th pick for having the worst record.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:49 pm 
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So the long year continues. We currently sport a 5-51 record, 37.5 back of Cleveland for the top spot in the East.

The Nets play a talented but banged up Blazer team tonight. The Blazers are coming off some hard losses to the Utah Jazz and the Boston Celtics. They should be hungry for a victory and who better to get it against than the Nets?

Watching Rudy Gay the other night got me thinking. If we get the number 1 pick, draft John Wall. Then offer Rudy a big contract in hopes Memphis does not match it and roll with him on the wing. We have the cap space, we might as well use it. If we add Gay and Wall, we would still need a solid rebounder and shot blocker. If they can play in the post, that is somewhat of a bonus. So look to ship out Devin Harris and Yi and see what you can get. Maybe a sign and trade for Amare. Maybe trade Devin and the Dallas first round pick we have for a higher pick. Then draft someone like Favors from GT, Cousins from Kentucky, Greg Monroe from Georgetown, or Hassan Whiteside from Marshall.

The Nets have a couple ways to go with their rebuilding. And I would not be surprised if we can contend for a playoff spot next year.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:04 pm 
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So the long year continues. We currently sport a 5-51 record, 37.5 back of Cleveland for the top spot in the East.

The Nets play a talented but banged up Blazer team tonight. The Blazers are coming off some hard losses to the Utah Jazz and the Boston Celtics. They should be hungry for a victory and who better to get it against than the Nets?

Watching Rudy Gay the other night got me thinking. If we get the number 1 pick, draft John Wall. Then offer Rudy a big contract in hopes Memphis does not match it and roll with him on the wing. We have the cap space, we might as well use it. If we add Gay and Wall, we would still need a solid rebounder and shot blocker. If they can play in the post, that is somewhat of a bonus. So look to ship out Devin Harris and Yi and see what you can get. Maybe a sign and trade for Amare. Maybe trade Devin and the Dallas first round pick we have for a higher pick. Then draft someone like Favors from GT, Cousins from Kentucky, Greg Monroe from Georgetown, or Hassan Whiteside from Marshall.

The Nets have a couple ways to go with their rebuilding. And I would not be surprised if we can contend for a playoff spot next year.


That's a huge number. Wow.


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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:03 pm 
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That's a huge number. Wow.


Well the Nets lost again last night and the Cavs won so now it is 38.5 back.

If we don't get the #1 pick this year will seem like such a waste. Stupid draft lottery.

After watching the last couple games, I think Kiki should relieve himself from his coaching duties. He is an awful coach. I don't understand his rotations at all. You would think in a year such as this you should just play the kids. But, for some reason Trenton Hassell gets minutes over Terrence Williams. Hassell played 32 minutes last night to TWill's 4. I mean Kiki, you are the one who drafted TWill. Don't you think you should at least see what he's got?

Devin
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Lopez

CDR is the sixth man and Humphries is the first big man off the bench. Then just sit back, have them run their sets, and leave them alone. Granted I am not at any practices or team meetings, but I find TWill and CDR's lack of use perplexing.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:52 pm 
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I don't understand how a professional team in any sport can have a sub .100 WPCT. ANY professional team.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:53 pm 
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The Nets lost again last night to the Mavericks and are now 42.5 back of the Cavs in the East. The game started out great. The Nets were up 17-3 at one point and 33-19 at the end of the first. We even had 47-39 lead at the half, but the Nets are good at losing. We gave it our best to blow it in the second half and succeeded in doing so.

I have said it for a while, but Terrence Williams can play basketball. He can do anything on the court. His lacks a consistent jumpshot, but that can be worked on in the offseason. His outstanding athletic ability allows him to rise above defenders as he attacks the paint. He is an excellent passer, can run the pick and roll very effectively, and can create open shots for teammates. When Kiki surrounds Terrence with the shooters the Nets have, it makes for a semi-effective lineup.

The Nets can go in so many directions next year. It will depend on what pick we get in the lottery, but there is reason to be excited. If we get the #1 we draft John Wall. Then fill in the pieces. Offer some money to restricted free agent Anthony Morrow. Feel the market for Tyrus Thomas. Look to trade Devin Harris for a high draft pick. Make an offer to Rudy Gay. I will risk sounding like Omar Minaya, but look to get younger and more athletic.

My ideal and somewhat (not really) realistic Nets team next year:
PG: John Wall
SG: Terrence Williams
SF: Wes Johnson (Devin Harris and the Dallas pick for the Pacer pick?)
PF: Tyrus Thomas
C: Brook Lopez
Bench: Courtney Lee, Louis Amundson (unrestricted FA signing), Kris Humphries, CDR, Jarvis Varnardo (2nd round pick), Keyon Dooling, and then fillers.

Devin and the Maverick pick may be enough to get Wes Johnson, but I am not sure. It will depend how the lottery shakes out. If we cannot get Wes we would need someone to play the wing opposite TWill. Preferably someone who can shoot the ball to space the floor a little bit.

There are so many ways for the Nets to rebuild this roster. Once the lottery is complete however, we will be able to speculate a little more.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:16 pm 
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Lottery is so stupid. Just reverse the order.


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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:55 pm 
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I think there's something seriously wrong with a league where a team like the Nets (or even the Knicks, for that matter) can intentionally put a horrible team on the floor, and charge major league prices for admission, thinking (accurately) that they will benefit by doing so.

I realize the lottery rules are designed to prevent a team from intentionally tanking and that there are plenty of hopeless teams in non-salary cap sports (Pirates, Royals, etc.).

But there's still something warped about the fact that a team becomes really bad by clearing cap space and then it essentially plays out the season doing nothing to get better because to be better is against its long-term interests.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
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A sobering thought for Nets fans--

The Bulls had one of the greatest dynasties in NBA history.

Jerry Krause, sensing that it was coming to an end, began breaking up the core, too early, according to some.

The rationale was that the ensuing horrible teams were necessary in order to get back to the mountaintop.

It's been quite a few years since the rebuilding began and I checked the standings today and the Bulls are 33-38.

Krause is long gone, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:19 am 
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Well, it is over. Turns out we were able to be only one of the worst teams in history with 12 wins and not THE worst. I have to say I watched about 70% of the Net games this season and I will miss it. The NBA is back for me, even with the Nets being wretched.

John Wall or bust.

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SHPIDA wrote:
Lottery is so stupid. Just reverse the order.


I don't think they do that because they think a team will lose on purpose. They need to get real, these are professional athletes playing for pride. The guys on this years team want to win and could careless about the number they draft this summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Nets in for a long, long year
PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:33 am 
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Chico wrote:
A sobering thought for Nets fans--

The Bulls had one of the greatest dynasties in NBA history.

Jerry Krause, sensing that it was coming to an end, began breaking up the core, too early, according to some.

The rationale was that the ensuing horrible teams were necessary in order to get back to the mountaintop.

It's been quite a few years since the rebuilding began and I checked the standings today and the Bulls are 33-38.

Krause is long gone, too.


I agree with Krause's philosophy but in the end you need luck more than anything. Look at the Spurs they tanked and got Duncan. If they end up with Ron Mercer they don't win. Lakers get Kobe because he refuses to play for Charlotte. Blazers decide to go with Bowie over MJ because they have Clyde and then Oden over Durant....ouch 2x.

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