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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:00 am 
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The Knicks selected Andy Rautins who a combo guard from Syracuse and Landry Fields who is a forward from Stanford.

Rautins is a good shooter, but can be streaky. He has plenty of range and often took deep threes for the Cuse. He can handle the ball a little bit, but can try to do too much and will turn it over. By NBA standards he will be a below average athlete. He has a basketball pedigree and has benefitted from excellent coaching throughout his career. I would compare him to a worse JJ Reddick.

I don't know much about Landry, but he seems to be an interesting pick.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:21 am 
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landry fields is a senior small forward from Stanford

decent size 6 foot 7 .. a little on the skinny side

he put up very good numbers
22 points 8.8 rb's 2.8 assists
shot 49 % from the field

good versatile, crafty offensive game..
not great from 3pt range or the foul line
maybe similiar to a lesser version of tashaun prince?

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:43 am 
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bygranddesign wrote:
landry fields is a senior small forward from Stanford

decent size 6 foot 7 .. a little on the skinny side

he put up very good numbers
22 points 8.8 rb's 2.8 assists
shot 49 % from the field

good versatile, crafty offensive game..
not great from 3pt range or the foul line
maybe similiar to a lesser version of tashaun prince?


D'Antoni was interviewed on ESPN, and he specifically said that Landry was a good shooter. That tells me they think he can knock down NBA 3's consistently.

Let's see what he can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:12 am 
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Knicks also apparently purchased the #44 pick in the draft...I honestly think Rautins and Fields possibly go undrafted so I don't know what Walsh was doing but hey he knows better than I do. I think it was Chad Ford said Fields wasn't even in his top 100 and it's the first time a team has taken a player not in his top 100. At least they picked up a center with that 44 pick.Here's hoping that these kids turn out to be good picks but right now I don't feel great about it. Couple this draft with the moves the Bulls and Heat have made and I don't feel very confident going into next week. I just hope the Knicks don't get shut out of the big 3 after all they did just to get the cap room. This would be a HUGE failure...I'm praying that my I am made to look a fool for not believing they can pull this off though. PLEASE LEBRON COME TO NY!!! Let's go Knicks!

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:12 am 
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Unconfirmed but they supposedly also bought pick #44 Center James Jordan. 7'1, low ceiling but nba ready (24 yrs old btw) decent chance to be a good backup with a small(er) chance to be an adequate starter..

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:20 am 
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Boricua21 wrote:
Chad Ford said Fields wasn't even in his top 100 and it's the first time a team has taken a player not in his top 100.


YUP..Unbelievable really..


Couple this draft with the moves the Bulls and Heat have made and I don't feel very confident going into next week. I just hope the Knicks don't get shut out of the big 3 after all they did just to get the cap room. This would be a HUGE failure...I'm praying that my I am made to look a fool for not believing they can pull this off though. PLEASE LEBRON COME TO NY!!! Let's go Knicks!



Was having a great evening..Mets win and they're in 1st place, Beltran playing CF today and the NBA draft.. I was psyched especially after Konerko's HR.. Then the Bulls pull off the Hinrich deal, the Mets lose and now these picks.. Even Stephen A. Smith who a week ago felt Lebron was coming to NY is now writting "Knicks are in a world of trouble" on his twitter page..

I'm afraid to look at the Beltran thread/report..


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MarkJohnson>You wrote:

Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:44 am 
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Landry Fields is a very good player. Good jumper and good off the dribble. Pretty good rebounder. Not really the position the Knicks need but he definitely should have been on people's draft board. He really blossomed this past year and could keep on improving.

Rautins to me might be a poor man's Reddick as far as shooting goes but is a better all around ball player.

I like the Knicks grabbing Jordan at 44. Hopefully they did. Very good rebounder and a big body that I thik is just learning the game. Huge wing span and can move. I'd probaby would have drafted him before Fields based on need.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:19 am 
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Jordan may end up being the best player in this draft if only because there is not much in his way on the current roster assembled.

Fields is interesting but I could see him not even being there, as in traded before he even suits up for summer league. The Knicks either heard there was a team who had him that high to take them.

Rautins I think can be a Brent Barry in his later years, a good sharp-shooter off the bench on a good team.

Since it is just a 2 round shabang and the quality is not very vast (and hasn't been for a very long time), I cannot really kill the Knicks that much with these reaches but I would at least try and be shrewd to make even the smallest deals if only to just clear up present cap space which I think could still happen in the next few days.


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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:36 am 
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Prospectus wrote:
Jordan may end up being the best player in this draft if only because there is not much in his way on the current roster assembled.



you mean he may end up being the best player the Knicks took in the draft?

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:17 pm 
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Azmetaholic wrote:
Rautins to me might be a poor man's Reddick as far as shooting goes but is a better all around ball player.


I gotta disagree with you, Az. I think JJ is the better NBA player than Andy.

Andy has the height advantage on JJ, but neither has the size, length, or speed to matchup with 2 guards in the NBA. Andy was hiding in at the top of the zone up at Cuse and it will be interesting how he fares playing man against stronger, more athletic players. Both do no have the handle to play the PG position in the NBA, yet both can handle the ball a little bit. And while both are good shooters, I would say they are not elite at the NBA level. Andy may be able to prove me wrong, and turn into a dead-eye marksman, but his stroke was too inconsistent for me.

Andy is a great leader. He will give you everything he has and then some more. He can get hot and hit some shots in a row from long range. He has a good basketball IQ. He can get open looks for teammates when asked to. But, I would say his absolute peak potential is as a knock down spot up shooter who is a defensive liability with decent ball handling skills. He could be a serviceable bench player, but I would not expect anything more than that.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:59 pm 
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I think Andy will develop into more of a point guard in the nba. Don't get me wrong he will probably not be a superstar but I think his ball handling skills will come along and could develop into a better overall player than JJ.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Early? 2010 Knicks pick
PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:22 am 
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I like Rautins as a player and he has one of the sweetest J's I have ever seen. He has a skill + (shooting) and is a pretty good passer. If he isn't a defensive liability maybe he turns out to be Dell Curry. But i'd be shocked if he ever turns into anything more than a guy who can shoot off the bench. I haven't seen enough of Fields to pass judgement.

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