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 Post subject: Don't look now, but the New York Knicks ...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:03 pm 
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Are playing some pretty good basketball lately.

After a 3-14 start, they are 12-6 in their last 18. Gallo is a beast of a 3-point shooter. Wilson Chandler has surprised me.

Earlier this year, I thought there was no way Lebron would come. But if they continue to play like this, they have a shot at landing him.


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Yes sir Knicks will make the playoffs this year...

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Amazin Vladi wrote:
Yes sir Knicks will make the playoffs this year...


Hopefully they do.

Tanking doesn't even help, since they don't own their draft pick for this year.

At this point, I think trading Curry is a pipe dream. I'm hoping they'll be able to trade Jeffries, though.


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Thejurisdoc wrote:
Amazin Vladi wrote:
Yes sir Knicks will make the playoffs this year...


Hopefully they do.

Tanking doesn't even help, since they don't own their draft pick for this year.

At this point, I think trading Curry is a pipe dream. I'm hoping they'll be able to trade Jeffries, though.


Doesn't Jefferies have an EXP? I haven't looked in a while, admittedly...

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tejdog1 wrote:
Thejurisdoc wrote:
Amazin Vladi wrote:
Yes sir Knicks will make the playoffs this year...


Hopefully they do.

Tanking doesn't even help, since they don't own their draft pick for this year.

At this point, I think trading Curry is a pipe dream. I'm hoping they'll be able to trade Jeffries, though.


Doesn't Jefferies have an EXP? I haven't looked in a while, admittedly...


I think Jeffries and Curry are the only cap-unfriendly long term deals left on the roster.

If Curry could put his buffet plate down long enough to get into a game, they could probably showcase him a little.


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jeffries has been playing great. i would practically call him the glue. well thats his nickname on the knick boards. :lol:
seriously his d is fantastic. this is not the old knicks and lee is an all star.

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LeBron could win a championship with this team. Lee and Gallinari would benefit big time - Gallinari on the wing for kickouts and Lee down low for easy put ins when his defender has to go help on a driving James.

I think it's going to happen. I'm no NBA cap expert, is there any way Wade and James can be Knicks?


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Genmet wrote:
LeBron could win a championship with this team. Lee and Gallinari would benefit big time - Gallinari on the wing for kickouts and Lee down low for easy put ins when his defender has to go help on a driving James.

I think it's going to happen. I'm no NBA cap expert, is there any way Wade and James can be Knicks?


Unfortunately the cap is based on projected league revenues and because revenues are down, the cap is dropping too. Before that news came out last year, the predominant thinking was that the Knicks were going to make max-offers to Lebron and either Wade or Bosh (I'd prefer Bosh). However, they can't do that now unless the can clear Jeffries or Curry for an expiring contract. Curry will be impossible to move, unless they give up Gallo too. A Jeffries/Krypto-nate trade combo might be attractive to a playoff bound team who wants good inside defense and scoring off the bench.

Another idea I've read is that they will make a max offer to Lebron this offseason, and then make a second max offer to another player in the following offseason.

The thing to remember is that the Cavs were awful too before they got LBJ. The current Knicks roster is a better supporting cast than what he had his first two years in the pros.


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Genmet wrote:
LeBron could win a championship with this team. Lee and Gallinari would benefit big time - Gallinari on the wing for kickouts and Lee down low for easy put ins when his defender has to go help on a driving James.

I think it's going to happen. I'm no NBA cap expert, is there any way Wade and James can be Knicks?


It would be impossible for them to get both Wade and James at max offers unless they traded Curry and Jeffries without taking on any money.

Getting Lebron while keeping Lee may also still be out of play unless we can move Curry or Jeffries.

One thing I have read is that if Lebron wanted he could take less than a max deal from the team he chooses to go to in order to give the team more flexibility in building a contender around him.


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It would be impossible for them to get both Wade and James at max offers unless they traded Curry and Jeffries without taking on any money.

Getting Lebron while keeping Lee may also still be out of play unless we can move Curry or Jeffries.

One thing I have read is that if Lebron wanted he could take less than a max deal from the team he chooses to go to in order to give the team more flexibility in building a contender around him.


Yep, but I'm starting to think trading Jefferies without taking back a bad (2 yrs left) contract is closer to unlikely than impossible now.

There may be something up with Curry's contract that we are unaware of. Walsh twice in the past year+ has made a comment that "there is something people are overlooking" when talking about how much cap space we'll have this summer.

The first time he said this (IIRC it was at the D'Antoni press conference) many shrugged it off as a play with words or that he meant something else entirely. But when he said the same thing during this past pre-season it got some people's attention.

Some say it may be a clause in Curry's contract that we are either unaware of or are not fully understanding. Some think there's nothing to this while others believe Walsh has something up his sleeve. Stay Tuned...

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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Yep, but I'm starting to think trading Jefferies without taking back a bad (2 yrs left) contract is closer to unlikely than impossible now.

There may be something up with Curry's contract that we are unaware of. Walsh twice in the past year+ has made a comment that "there is something people are overlooking" when talking about how much cap space we'll have this summer.

The first time he said this (IIRC it was at the D'Antoni press conference) many shrugged it off as a play with words or that he meant something else entirely. But when he said the same thing during this past pre-season it got some people's attention.

Some say it may be a clause in Curry's contract that we are either unaware of or are not fully understanding. Some think there's nothing to this while others believe Walsh has something up his sleeve. Stay Tuned...


If they could dump Curry I would be legitimately ecstatic.

Jeffries would actually not be a bad player in a Lebron-led team because he is a hustle and defense guy who doesn't need offensive touches.

I'd imagine the roto to look something like:

1: Duhon (??)
2: Lebron
3: Gallo
4: Lee
5: Bosh (I wish)

Bench: Chandler / Nate / Jeffries

Duhon would not be a great choice for PG, but I don't know who is available. They'd need a pass-first guy, someone like Jason Kidd (but not Kidd because he's like, 40). I think I may have read that Nash is a FA next year and he might be worth exploring. I might suggest Toney Douglas because (1) he's ultra fast and (2) not going to need shots if he's sharing the floor with LBJ/Lee/Gallo/Bosh. But I'm not sure Douglas is a long-term answer.

Also, I saw Jordan Hill get some time at the of the OK City blowout and he looks like he might be a major, major bust.


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