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Author:  Chico [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:47 am ]
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More on Gilbert--

He bought the team AFTER LeBron had turned around the franchise.

Classic case of being born on third base and acting like you just hit a triple.

Author:  MikeH [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:40 am ]
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Nutsacjac wrote:
Quote:
The Lakers are the second best team now. The Heat now have 3 of the top 10-15 players in the league. I would even say that they have 2 of the top 3 players in the game in Lebron and Wade.

Any bums they put around Lebron, Wade, and Bosh will look like gold.


There is only one ball. LeBron and Wade have similar games, they're both slashers that don't shoot a high percentage. Neither one has a killer jump shot to speak of. They both need the ball in their hands to do the most damage.


Kobe's career FG percentage: 45.5%
Lebron's career FG percentage: 47.5%
DWade's career FG percentage: 48.2%

There is plenty of basketball to go around.

Author:  R Nitelight [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:11 am ]
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I dunno.

I'm not a huge basketball fans.

But I'm hoping this turns out to be a disaster for LeBron and the Heat.


8)

Author:  Chico [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:54 am ]
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How many of the Knicks fans burning up the phone lines to complain about LeBron on WFAN would be complaining if he had pulled the same maneuver to become a Knick?

In fact, there were reliable reports that one of the contract proposals the Knicks made involved LeBron and two other superstars taking slightly less than max contracts so the Knicks could fit them under the cap.

Author:  SHPIDA [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:55 am ]
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What an egomaniac. Go Bulls!

Author:  dalek [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:27 pm ]
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Yeah... Any Knicks fan complaining about the way he did is delusional. If he had said, "Ive decided that I want to bring a championship to the city of New York," they'd all be singing a very different tune.

It sucks he went to Miami, I would've liked to be able to see him everyday. But, in the end, I don't really care. This Heat team should be REALLY fun to watch. And I would love to see them win the next 5 or 6 titles. Though, I wouldn't mind them winning zero either. :twisted:

Author:  CiarĂ¡n [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:59 pm ]
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Mike Brown's firing was most SICKENING of all

Let's face it, the guy was fired because LeBron wanted someone else. Apparently, the rest of the Cavs players like Mike Brown.

What a completely selfish act

Author:  Prospectus [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:19 pm ]
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I do think Ferry deserved to be fired. Completely half-hearted effort during the trading deadline. Mike Brown should have stayed and he should be getting phone calls from other teams.

Author:  Chico [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Lebron Watch

Mike Brown probably got a raw deal. But he also came from relative obscurity to coach a 60-plus win team.

He'll take that with him on his resume and get himself a pretty good deal somewhere.

Dan Gilbert is a rich guy who became one of the best-known, most publicized owners in sports for one reason--he owned the team LeBron played on.

There are some other talented people who played for and worked for the Cavs the last 7 years.

But the thing that separated them from similar people in the NBA was that they were in the orbit of LeBron.

Bottom line, IMO, is that for all LeBron has gotten out of his career, the people around him have gotten as much or more from being associated with him.

I don't believe he was obligated to continue that relationship in perpetuity if he didn't want to.

Author:  Nutsacjac [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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Chico wrote:
I don't believe he was obligated to continue that relationship in perpetuity if he didn't want to.


That's fair. I don't think anyone is killing him for leaving Cleveland per se, it's just that he clearly is not a leader of men and is perfectly content being a supplementary player on another man's team.

He took the easy way out. He could have been the man in Cleveland(or NJ, NY, CHI), but he wanted to join Wade's team that plays in relative obscurity.

Author:  TrueBlue15 [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:49 pm ]
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On the Kobe/Lebron argument...

I admit I don't watch enough of the NBA to say which one is definitely better but I will try to make a case for Lebron after looking up some numbers.

Lebron is 349-225 (.608 PCT) for his career in the regular season. In his 7 seasons in the league he missed the playoffs his first two years, lost in the 2nd round, lost in the finals, lost in the 2nd round, lost in the conference final, and lost in the 2nd round. He has that resume playing with pretty much nobody (Z, Gooden, Jamison, Mo Williams, old Shaq, etc)

Just looking at the three years after Shaq left and before they got Gasol the Lakers went 121-125 (.492 PCT) with Kobe. They missed the playoffs and lost in the 1st round twice.

Career averages:
Lebron - 27.8 PPG Kobe - 25.3
Lebron - 7.1 Reb Kobe - 5.3
Lebron - 7.0 Ast Kobe - 4.7

Don't get me wrong, Kobe is a great player but the only time he won those rings was when he played with another elite player. Lebron has never had that. Lebron has had better results than Kobe when neither had much around them. I think Lebron elevates the play of the guys he plays with more than Kobe. Thoughts?

Author:  TrueBlue15 [ Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:59 pm ]
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I understand why people say Lebron "took the easy way out" but wouldn't he have been a hypocrite if he did not sign with the Heat? He said winning was the most important thing to him and by him going to the Heat he was not a liar by saying that. I'm sure if he signed with a team other than the Heat, than people would be ripping on him for saying winning was his #1 priority and than not living up to his word. Athletes always get ripped for taking the most money and not caring about winning so why is he getting ripped for going to a team that has the best chance of winning? Just because he is not the "lead guy" he is taking the easy way out?

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