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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:55 pm 
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Its not the personality that you suspend him for, its the cheap shots and the instigating that he should be suspended for.

Its a shame, because the guy does have talent and heart and should in fact let that talent do the talking instead of resorting to his crap. IMO, cheap shots and the like have no place in hockey and it takes away from the sport. There is nothing wrong with playing with an edge, but Avery takes huge liberties with that.


spoken like a guy who doesn't have Avery on his team. i hear what you're saying. he is a master instigator which is something you cant penalize either without actual proof. i'd hate to face him when he's not wearing a rangers jersey


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Softwhere wrote:
Its not the personality that you suspend him for, its the cheap shots and the instigating that he should be suspended for.

Its a shame, because the guy does have talent and heart and should in fact let that talent do the talking instead of resorting to his crap. IMO, cheap shots and the like have no place in hockey and it takes away from the sport. There is nothing wrong with playing with an edge, but Avery takes huge liberties with that.


spoken like a guy who doesn't have Avery on his team. i hear what you're saying. he is a master instigator which is something you cant penalize either without actual proof. i'd hate to face him when he's not wearing a rangers jersey

Not true, spoken more like a hockey fan that wants the cheap shots and the cheap shot artists out of the sport. Avery has a well deserved reputation, not just for running his mouth, but for cheap shots and instigating fights that have nothing to do with protecting teammates and the like.

BTW, In Carolina we have our own little pest, Chad LaRose. He just gets under oponents' skin by the way he plays and provides the same type of energy that Avery does without the unnessary cheap shots and instigator fights.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=cox_damien&id=3109816&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab5pos1

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For three days, it has been a brewing tempest, an ugly, vicious spat between NHL players played out on the front pages of the dailies in New York and Toronto, the media capitals of the United States and Canada.

To many, that in itself represents good business: that a pregame scuffle between the Maple Leafs and Rangers last Saturday (that might or might not have included some below-the-belt insults) caught a lot of headlines and resulted in a bunch of fines and still could produce a lawsuit or two.

That, of course, comes from the school of thought that suggests it doesn't matter what you write or say about somebody seeking fame, as long as he gets his name spelt correctly.

Then, there's the other philosophy, the one that suggests that for every person who loved the Sean Avery vs. Darcy Tucker shoving match Saturday, there are others who were more determined that there was nothing about the sport or the NHL that interested them at all.


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I have no problem with the work of a pest. Hell, Ville Nieminen is one of my favorite all-time Flames. It's when he crosses the line into being a punk instigator when the problems start.

So much crap follows Avery that I can only assume he crosses that line rather frequently.

Guys like him have been around forever. The most effective way to stop these guys is to have them drop the gloves. And if you take fighting out of hockey, it will be tough to keep these guys in check.

I'm not even sure if that's where you guys were going with this, but there's my $0.02.

And this thread makes me miss Nemo. His jump technique in front of the goalie and patented warcry made me laugh everytime.

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I have no problem with the work of a pest. Hell, Ville Nieminen is one of my favorite all-time Flames. It's when he crosses the line into being a punk instigator when the problems start.

So much crap follows Avery that I can only assume he crosses that line rather frequently.

Guys like him have been around forever. The most effective way to stop these guys is to have them drop the gloves. And if you take fighting out of hockey, it will be tough to keep these guys in check.

I'm not even sure if that's where you guys were going with this, but there's my $0.02.

And this thread makes me miss Nemo. His jump technique in front of the goalie and patented warcry made me laugh everytime.


I agree to an extent Mike.

For good or for bad (for me its for the good) the days of the "enforcer" are behind us in this sport, so the guy that would drop the gloves and intimidate punks like Avery are rare today. In the absence of the "enforcer" the league needs to jump in and make an example by suspending and fining guys like Avery, afterall it was the new league rules that renthered "the enforcer" a dinosaur.

Btw, I am not against fighting, as I believe it serves a purpose of checks and balances, I am however totally against guys like Avery who take liberties on the ice.

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Point well taken, Softwhere. I agree with you completely. In order to maintain fair play in today's NHL, the league has to come down hard upon guys like Avery.

Although I would prefer an old fashioned means to end foul play, any solution to rid hockey of this is fine by me.

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i agree that the rangers own all.


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for you Softwhere:

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Sean Avery of the New York Rangers denied making cancer-related comments to ill Maple Leafs forward Jason Blake before a pregame altercation between the clubs last weekend.

Avery exchanged words and shoves with Blake and his Toronto teammate Darcy Tucker during warmups before New York's 3-2 shootout victory over the Maple Leafs on Saturday night.

On Tuesday, the NHL fined the Rangers $25,000, the Leafs $10,000, Avery $2,500 and Tucker $1,000 for the scuffle.

The FAN 590, an all-sports radio station in Toronto, reported Monday that an unnamed Rangers player said Avery started the pregame scuffle with comments directed against Blake, who was recently diagnosed with a form of leukemia.

"I am extremely upset and hurt that false and damaging comments were attributed to me regarding Jason Blake," Avery said Tuesday in a statement released by the Rangers. "I made no such comments. I have lost two grandfathers to cancer and have been a consistent contributor to multiple cancer-related charities, first and foremost, Hockey Fights Cancer."

Avery is considering legal action against the radio station.

"I am unable to comment further, as the matter is now being addressed by legal counsel," the statement concluded.


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"He has no sense of class and you know, what goes around comes around in this game, eventually," Tucker said Monday.

This is not the first time Avery has been accused of making inflammatory remarks.

The brash forward received a league reprimand in September 2005 when he made derogatory comments about French-Canadian players after then-Phoenix defenseman Denis Gauthier hit former Kings teammate Jeremy Roenick in an exhibition game. Avery issued an apology.

During a game against Edmonton the next month, then Oilers forward Georges Laraque, who is black, accused Avery of using a racial slur. Avery denied the allegation.

Avery also was outspoken a few months later when he received a fine for diving during a game. He complained about the punishment, which resulted from a second offense, and drew a second $1,000 fine. He suggested that the NHL singled him out because of his earlier comments.

As part of his protest to the diving fine, Avery chastised union members on the league's competition committee for agreeing to such penalties that aren't subject to appeal in the collective bargaining agreement.

Avery also caused a stir in April 2006 with an obscenity-laced tirade at Anaheim Ducks television commentator Brian Hayward.


http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3108843

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"He's pissing guys off," Belak told The Sun. "He'll bring harm to himself and not too many guys around the league are going to be sad to see it. If he keeps this up, someone is going to kill him. One day he's going to say something the wrong way and he'll be clubbed.


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3-1, not bad. The next 3 games should be another litmus test - road games in Toronto, NJ and Philly. They've shown that they can win at MSG, now they have to start playing better away from the garden.

BTW, Mark Staal's already the best defenseman on the team. He's played in every game and is the only Ranger to have not taken a penalty. He's been physical, is starting to show some offensive ability and has made great decisions in his own end. He's the goods.


Well, I'm satisfied. Henrik is a shootout God.


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What a game! :shock:

Rangers are absolutely rolling right now. :D

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nice. nice nice nice.


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another big win. considering the rangers D was considered their biggest weakness, this is really nice. roszival, tyutin, girari, and stall have been huge. studwick with the gamewinner. nice.


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