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please note, i'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure all the Devils fans can stop complaining the refs are somehow biased against them...


Why, because the refs put away the whistles entirely for one period?


Zach Parise grabbing away Lundqvist's stick (which led directly to a goal) didn't strike you as something that should have been called?


Chris Russo said he didn't think it was a penalty since Doc and Chico didn't mention anything about it on the Devils telecast.


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please note, i'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure all the Devils fans can stop complaining the refs are somehow biased against them...


Why, because the refs put away the whistles entirely for one period?


Zach Parise grabbing away Lundqvist's stick (which led directly to a goal) didn't strike you as something that should have been called?


Chris Russo said he didn't think it was a penalty since Doc and Chico didn't mention anything about it on the Devils telecast.


:shock: :lol:

There were missed calls on both sides. As Tom Gulutti wrote in his blog - both teams' fans were complaining about officiating after the game. Which usually means they stunk period :P

Ironically though Sam and Micheletti even pointed out a couple of the missed penalty calls which hurt the Devils when I had the 60-minute highlight show on MSG on before.

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Sutter basically said today that the Devils are going to run Lundqvist tomorrow night.

This could be pretty interesting.

Oh, and should it be that the Devils lose game 5, all I ask is for someone to rearrange Avery's face on the way out.


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MetsFan45 wrote:
aeroclearica wrote:
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please note, i'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure all the Devils fans can stop complaining the refs are somehow biased against them...


Why, because the refs put away the whistles entirely for one period?


Zach Parise grabbing away Lundqvist's stick (which led directly to a goal) didn't strike you as something that should have been called?


Chris Russo said he didn't think it was a penalty since Doc and Chico didn't mention anything about it on the Devils telecast.


:shock: :lol:

There were missed calls on both sides. As Tom Gulutti wrote in his blog - both teams' fans were complaining about officiating after the game. Which usually means they stunk period :P

Ironically though Sam and Micheletti even pointed out a couple of the missed penalty calls which hurt the Devils when I had the 60-minute highlight show on MSG on before.


Like I stated earlier, the officiating has been terrible period. Over the course of the series, the calls/miscalls have evened out. In the end, no one is really happy with how these games have been called and that seems about right.


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Sutter basically said today that the Devils are going to run Lundqvist tomorrow night.

This could be pretty interesting.

Oh, and should it be that the Devils lose game 5, all I ask is for someone to rearrange Avery's face on the way out.


Why? For the Jagr incident? Sutter should look at the video tape and watch his Defense man "butt" Jagr who was trying his best to squeeze through the crease without hitting Brodeur.
As for Avery easier said then done. That is just what he wants the Devils to try to do.... Try to hurt him and forget about the game.

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Why? For the Jagr incident? Sutter should look at the video tape and watch his Defense man "butt" Jagr who was trying his best to squeeze through the crease without hitting Brodeur.
As for Avery easier said then done. That is just what he wants the Devils to try to do.... Try to hurt him and forget about the game.


Because it's clear that Renney's game plan includes bumping into and/or bowling over Brodeur, and the officials have done little to penalize them for it.

As for Avery, I'm not talking about taking a bad penalty that going to cost the Devils a game...I'm talking about taking action should the Devils be down by more than 2 goals late in any one of these final games. And of course it is easier said than done, as Avery would likely turtle like he always does in that situation.


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aeroclearica wrote:
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aeroclearica wrote:
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please note, i'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure all the Devils fans can stop complaining the refs are somehow biased against them...


Why, because the refs put away the whistles entirely for one period?


Zach Parise grabbing away Lundqvist's stick (which led directly to a goal) didn't strike you as something that should have been called?


Chris Russo said he didn't think it was a penalty since Doc and Chico didn't mention anything about it on the Devils telecast.


:shock: :lol:

There were missed calls on both sides. As Tom Gulutti wrote in his blog - both teams' fans were complaining about officiating after the game. Which usually means they stunk period :P

Ironically though Sam and Micheletti even pointed out a couple of the missed penalty calls which hurt the Devils when I had the 60-minute highlight show on MSG on before.


Like I stated earlier, the officiating has been terrible period. Over the course of the series, the calls/miscalls have evened out. In the end, no one is really happy with how these games have been called and that seems about right.


They evened out for most of Game 4, not for the entire series. Especially considering Brodeur's been run 23532 times.

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Why? For the Jagr incident? Sutter should look at the video tape and watch his Defense man "butt" Jagr who was trying his best to squeeze through the crease without hitting Brodeur.
As for Avery easier said then done. That is just what he wants the Devils to try to do.... Try to hurt him and forget about the game.


Because it's clear that Renney's game plan includes bumping into and/or bowling over Brodeur, and the officials have done little to penalize them for it.

As for Avery, I'm not talking about taking a bad penalty that going to cost the Devils a game...I'm talking about taking action should the Devils be down by more than 2 goals late in any one of these final games. And of course it is easier said than done, as Avery would likely turtle like he always does in that situation.


Renney's game plan is having his players go hard to the net, something that's been long overdue. If you have a problem with Brodeur being knocked down as much as he has, then tell him to stop going so far out of the crease. He's practically begging to get hit with how far out of the net he plays half the time. I'm sick of this crap about us running Marty. Most of the time a Ranger makes contact with Brodeur is because he's being cross checked into him by one of your defensemen. Marty also makes a habit of welcoming contact so that he can win another medal for Olympic diving.

And when did Avery turn into Darius Kasparitis? He won't turtle, I can guarantee you that. There isn't a player on the Devils he would be afraid to fight, and probably not a fight he couldn't win. Say what you want about the guy, he is no coward.


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MetsFan45 wrote:
aeroclearica wrote:
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MetsFan45 wrote:
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please note, i'm not complaining but I'm pretty sure all the Devils fans can stop complaining the refs are somehow biased against them...


Why, because the refs put away the whistles entirely for one period?


Zach Parise grabbing away Lundqvist's stick (which led directly to a goal) didn't strike you as something that should have been called?


Chris Russo said he didn't think it was a penalty since Doc and Chico didn't mention anything about it on the Devils telecast.


:shock: :lol:

There were missed calls on both sides. As Tom Gulutti wrote in his blog - both teams' fans were complaining about officiating after the game. Which usually means they stunk period :P

Ironically though Sam and Micheletti even pointed out a couple of the missed penalty calls which hurt the Devils when I had the 60-minute highlight show on MSG on before.


Like I stated earlier, the officiating has been terrible period. Over the course of the series, the calls/miscalls have evened out. In the end, no one is really happy with how these games have been called and that seems about right.


They evened out for most of Game 4, not for the entire series. Especially considering Brodeur's been run 23532 times.


You're fooling yourself if you think the Rangers have an edge in this series in terms of the bad officiating. Game 4 was a joke, the officials did everything they could to get this serires tied in the 3rd period. It's obvious we're not seeing the same series here.


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aeroclearica wrote:
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Why? For the Jagr incident? Sutter should look at the video tape and watch his Defense man "butt" Jagr who was trying his best to squeeze through the crease without hitting Brodeur.
As for Avery easier said then done. That is just what he wants the Devils to try to do.... Try to hurt him and forget about the game.


Because it's clear that Renney's game plan includes bumping into and/or bowling over Brodeur, and the officials have done little to penalize them for it.

As for Avery, I'm not talking about taking a bad penalty that going to cost the Devils a game...I'm talking about taking action should the Devils be down by more than 2 goals late in any one of these final games. And of course it is easier said than done, as Avery would likely turtle like he always does in that situation.


Renney's game plan is having his players go hard to the net, something that's been long overdue. If you have a problem with Brodeur being knocked down as much as he has, then tell him to stop going so far out of the crease. He's practically begging to get hit with how far out of the net he plays half the time. I'm sick of this crap about us running Marty. Most of the time a Ranger makes contact with Brodeur is because he's being cross checked into him by one of your defensemen. Marty also makes a habit of welcoming contact so that he can win another medal for Olympic diving.

And when did Avery turn into Darius Kasparitis? He won't turtle, I can guarantee you that. There isn't a player on the Devils he would be afraid to fight, and probably not a fight he couldn't win. Say what you want about the guy, he is no coward.


You took the words right out of my mouth... Avery has clearly gotten to sluger and probably most of the Devils too.

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aeroclearica wrote:
Renney's game plan is having his players go hard to the net, something that's been long overdue. If you have a problem with Brodeur being knocked down as much as he has, then tell him to stop going so far out of the crease. He's practically begging to get hit with how far out of the net he plays half the time. I'm sick of this crap about us running Marty. Most of the time a Ranger makes contact with Brodeur is because he's being cross checked into him by one of your defensemen. Marty also makes a habit of welcoming contact so that he can win another medal for Olympic diving.

And when did Avery turn into Darius Kasparitis? He won't turtle, I can guarantee you that. There isn't a player on the Devils he would be afraid to fight, and probably not a fight he couldn't win. Say what you want about the guy, he is no coward.


Yes, a few times a Devils defenseman has cross-checked a Ranger into Brodeur, but there have been plenty of incidents in which a Ranger has just backed into him while he's standing at the top of the crease. Then of course there was the Callahan incident where he just decided to bowl him over...the bottomline is that whether you want to call it "going hard to the net" or "crashing the net" or "running the goalie", the Rangers haven't exactly gone out of their way to avoid making contact with Brodeur.

As for Avery, he actually is a coward. Forget the turtling point (and I have seen the guy turtle on more than one occasion), the guy very infrequently will drop the gloves when challenged...and of course, a guy like Avery is going to be challenged for a reason, not just to fight for the heck of it. Very rarely does he actually answer the bell.


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Azmetaholic wrote:
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Sutter basically said today that the Devils are going to run Lundqvist tomorrow night.

This could be pretty interesting.

Oh, and should it be that the Devils lose game 5, all I ask is for someone to rearrange Avery's face on the way out.


Why? For the Jagr incident? Sutter should look at the video tape and watch his Defense man "butt" Jagr who was trying his best to squeeze through the crease without hitting Brodeur.
As for Avery easier said then done. That is just what he wants the Devils to try to do.... Try to hurt him and forget about the game.


Jagr tried to walk the puck through the crease. Did he think Brodeur wasn't going to be standing there?

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