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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:18 am 
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In general, I think more people in the NY area paid attention to hockey with the Devils-Rangers playoff series than at any time in recent memory.

And what, two posts on the NYFS NHL forum until now?

I'm not a passionate fan (I used to follow hockey a lot more when I was younger).

But it's very easy to get caught up in competition as intense and high-level as this series was.

A couple of notes, though.

I continue to be amazed by Lou Lamoriello's skills in building a contending team year in and year out.

Also kind of funny to hear all the hosts on WFAN who rarely, if ever, talk about hockey on their shows, suddenly breaking down the x's and o's and passing opinions on the players.

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 Post subject: Re: Devils-Rangers series
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:33 pm 
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Chico wrote:
In general, I think more people in the NY area paid attention to hockey with the Devils-Rangers playoff series than at any time in recent memory.

And what, two posts on the NYFS NHL forum until now?

I'm not a passionate fan (I used to follow hockey a lot more when I was younger).

But it's very easy to get caught up in competition as intense and high-level as this series was.

A couple of notes, though.

I continue to be amazed by Lou Lamoriello's skills in building a contending team year in and year out.

Also kind of funny to hear all the hosts on WFAN who rarely, if ever, talk about hockey on their shows, suddenly breaking down the x's and o's and passing opinions on the players.


First off, congrats to the Devils on winning the series. They were the better team. Have to give credit where credit is due, Lamoriello has done a fantastic job with the Devils. He does not get the credit that he deserves, at least locally, because hockey is just not that popular for some reason.

Chico, I agree with your point on the WFAN hosts. I only really get a chance to listen to some Francesa on WFAN and he was talking about hockey! :shock: I think I remember a caller asking Mike why he does not talk about hockey during the regular season and I think he said something like "the regular season doesn't matter." Yes, he does have a point, but does every game of the MLB season matter? IMO, it's just hypocritical to say the regular season in the NHL does not matter with the way they analyze baseball games in April/May of a 162 game season. How could you watch this series and not want to watch more games during the season? I think every hockey fan would like to see the game grow in popularity but that will probably never be the case for some reason. Any thoughts as to why the sport is not more popular locally or nationally?


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:31 pm 
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TrueBlue15 wrote:
Chico wrote:
In general, I think more people in the NY area paid attention to hockey with the Devils-Rangers playoff series than at any time in recent memory.

And what, two posts on the NYFS NHL forum until now?

I'm not a passionate fan (I used to follow hockey a lot more when I was younger).

But it's very easy to get caught up in competition as intense and high-level as this series was.

A couple of notes, though.

I continue to be amazed by Lou Lamoriello's skills in building a contending team year in and year out.

Also kind of funny to hear all the hosts on WFAN who rarely, if ever, talk about hockey on their shows, suddenly breaking down the x's and o's and passing opinions on the players.


First off, congrats to the Devils on winning the series. They were the better team. Have to give credit where credit is due, Lamoriello has done a fantastic job with the Devils. He does not get the credit that he deserves, at least locally, because hockey is just not that popular for some reason.

Chico, I agree with your point on the WFAN hosts. I only really get a chance to listen to some Francesa on WFAN and he was talking about hockey! :shock: I think I remember a caller asking Mike why he does not talk about hockey during the regular season and I think he said something like "the regular season doesn't matter." Yes, he does have a point, but does every game of the MLB season matter? IMO, it's just hypocritical to say the regular season in the NHL does not matter with the way they analyze baseball games in April/May of a 162 game season. How could you watch this series and not want to watch more games during the season? I think every hockey fan would like to see the game grow in popularity but that will probably never be the case for some reason. Any thoughts as to why the sport is not more popular locally or nationally?


One of the things about watching hockey is, to me, it's so much more exciting to see the game in person than it is to watch on TV.

And, like all sports, it's become really expensive to go to a game, so it's like a vicious cycle--if you don't see it in person, you don't realize how great it is; but who's going to shell out a couple of hundred bucks when they don't appreciate how exciting it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Devils-Rangers series
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:39 pm 
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I'm obviously ecstatic that the Devils will be playing in their fifth Stanley Cup Final. Lou is incredible and he has assembled a tremendous coaching staff. It's absolutely incredible that Martin Brodeur has been the Devils goaltender for my entire fandom (I'm 24), and can easily play another season if he wishes.

Hockey isn't as popular for a number of reasons, some of which have been mentioned above. Another is that it's expensive to play. Equipment is very expensive and kids are constantly outgrowing their equipment. Ice time is also expensive and parents have to take their kids to play at odd hours. It's much easier and cheaper to sign your kid up for Little League. Granted, you don't have to play the sport to watch the sport, but that certainly is a factor.

Locally, it hasn't helped that the Rangers haven't had much success since 1994, the Islanders have been a complete disaster and the Devils play in New Jersey. Hopefully this series puts hockey back on the map a bit heading into next year. It's weird - as a Devils fan I really despise the Rangers, but at the same time I want them to do well so people talk about hockey!

The regular season is important in the sense that you have to make the playoffs. The dominant Kings "comfortably" made the playoffs by 5 points. A couple more Calgary wins and the Kings dropping a shootout here or there and they're hopping a Hawaii vacation 6 weeks ago instead. With home ice advantage seemingly diminishing in importance, seeding doesn't seem to be as crucial. Then again, this will be the first time a seed lower than 5 wins the Stanley Cup. :shrug:


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 Post subject: Re: Devils-Rangers series
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 4:21 pm 
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Chico wrote:
And, like all sports, it's become really expensive to go to a game, so it's like a vicious cycle--if you don't see it in person, you don't realize how great it is; but who's going to shell out a couple of hundred bucks when they don't appreciate how exciting it is.


I'm fortunate in that I have season tickets in section 120 (right behind the net we defend for two periods), $22 a game in the regular season and $46/53/60/75 for the four rounds of the playoffs, while single-game and secondary market prices have been much higher since we played the Flyers. And being in 120, I had a bird's-eye view of the awesomeness that is the Henrique goal.

Yeah it sucks that there isn't much hockey talk here, but I have to admit my interest in the Mets isn't there right now in spite of their own gutsy play, because of the Devils' improbable run. Hard for me to emotionally invest in two sports at a time, especially with all the games I've been going to (in addition to a couple of playoff viewing parties at the Rock). Ergo, I haven't been on this board itself much because of it.

I didn't expect much of this team either, I would have been happy with just getting through the first round and having a good showing in the second. At least until we wound up drawing the Flyers and Rangers back-to-back. Playing those teams, series are a must-win no matter what. Beating the Rangers the way we did finally ended all the '94 nonsense once and for all. Now I can at least exhale and enjoy the opportunity we have in the Finals, as opposed to dreading losing the way I did in the first three rounds - the first round cause of our recent hex in just winning a series, the last two cause we were against our two biggest rivals.


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 Post subject: Re: Devils-Rangers series
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 11:59 am 
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Good points by everyone. To be honest I think one of the reasons why it is not as popular as the other sports is because it is the ultimate team game. Out of the four major sports it is the one where the star players are the least visible. Generally speaking, I would say American fans love to watch stars/big names. In hockey those players are not as visible. Crosby might play 20 minutes in a game but that is not as visible as a Tom Brady playing QB, Lebron playing 40 minutes with the ball in his hands a majority of the time, Verlander pitching for 7+ innings, etc. Maybe the lack of scoring has something to do with it? Honestly, that's why I'm not a big fan of basketball. It has too much scoring for me. To be honest, I don't think the money thing has a lot to do with it. Look at how popular football is, it's not like every parent pushes their kid to play football. If participation was a factor, then soccer would be more popular. A ton of kids play soccer.


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