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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:31 am 
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Has there been any report on Eric Beaulac? When healthy, he appeared to have a chance at being a decent right reliever.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:35 am 
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I'd rank Chase second behind Mazzoni among those guys based on last year's results and being left handed.

It is some consolation watching the Mets bullpen this year and last that there does appear to be a lot of help on the way, eventually.



Unbelievably most of it is from the left side. Who is even our best RH relief "prospect"? Nobody stands out. Maybe McHugh if he lands in the pen with his slightly "unique" delivery? Not much at all.


Elvin Ramirez probably your best RH relief "prospect", if there even is such a thing, right now. Obviously the reports from last year now coupled with 10 K's in 5 IP. I'm not going to take Jeff from AA's velocity reports too seriously considering it was opening day and 30 degrees out, but after starting 88-89, I think he had Ramirez eventually hitting 95. So even if he's not at 100, thats still something.

Other than him, not counting starters you'll convert to relief because who the heck knows, you have to think Holt, Arm-Rod, Whitenton, Rosario are your best guys.

Rhiner Cruz, as much as he showed almost nothing in his time here, was REALLY impressive last night when I saw him pitch the 8th in the Houston/Washington game. Mid-High 90's consistently, 80-82 on the slider that he looked like he COULD command, contrary to reports otherwise (nice velocity difference) and a funky arm angle.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:48 am 
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I think are best right-handed "relief prospects" are actually starters who will be switched over - Familia, Mazzoni, Verrett, Mejia, etc.

I'm not claiming that all of those guys besides Mejia will be switched over, but some of them probably will, and may be effective in the pen.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:52 am 
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I don't see any reason to believe Mazzoni lands in the pen unless/until he fails as a starter. He was 2nd in the acc in k's and has 2 above average pitches and a workable 3rd. I don't think they took Mazzoni in the second round unless they envision him as a starter

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
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I agree with that pretty much entirely. However, he very well may not cut it as a starter, since many don't. He's got the stuff to play up in the pen if he ever switches over, as do those other guys.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:37 pm 
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I agree with that pretty much entirely. However, he very well may not cut it as a starter, since many don't. He's got the stuff to play up in the pen if he ever switches over, as do those other guys.



I don't disagree at all. I'm just saying "on paper" Mazzoni probably profiles as a starter unless he fails to get hitters out. I merely meant to this point there haven't been any red flags ie iffy delivery, iffy FB velocity, stamina concerns as there are with Familia, Mejia etc. Even Verrett with his reported 88-91 on his FB has some velocity "concerns" (it's certainly enough to do well but it's also "short" enough that it may work better in the pen).

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Rubin's Farm Report!-Greg Peavey feature
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Yeah, I think we're not disagreeing - I'm basically saying that the right hand wave is likely to be guys with good stuff who don't quite cut it as starters, as opposed to lefties like Edgin and Leathersich, who are clearly relief prospects from the start.


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Metro2007 wrote:
I don't see any reason to believe Mazzoni lands in the pen unless/until he fails as a starter. He was 2nd in the acc in k's and has 2 above average pitches and a workable 3rd. I don't think they took Mazzoni in the second round unless they envision him as a starter



I don't think anyone placed a "ceiling" on him last June, did they? Usually guys like Law or Mayo or even Sickels, after seeing them in the minors, place some kind of projected ceiling (Peavey for instance was thought to have a #3 ceiling upon being drafted 2 yrs ago) yet I don't recall one for Mazzoni. Or did I miss one?

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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