I'd like to see Schwinden make a few non-Coors starts before we throw him to the wolves.

I think Schwinden is what he is, Coors or not. He actually pitched reasonably well last night, but he is certainly not a part of a winning rotation, IMO...

Schwinden reminds me of Jeremy Griffiths

If you were just a pure stat evaluator - their upper minor league numbers would suggest that they are middle to back end rotation starters .. but when you see them pitch - it's hard to imagine them NOT getting hammered by good MLB hitters.

I wouldn't give up on Schwinden yet ... i would like to see him get a bunch more starts but i'm sort of intrigued by Mchugh. I'd like to see him get a crack at it at some point.

I think a lot of people fall into that trap, unfortunately. There are plenty of pitchers who do quite well or even dominate through AAA but can't stick in the Majors because their stuff is just underwhelming. Obviously I'm a big stats guy, but stuff still matters when talking about pitchers.

As for Schwinden, it's too early in his career to say what he is or isn't, though the early returns haven't been all that promising.

As a non-stats centric guy (I am about 50-50), Schwinden is probably best suited to the slot Batista filled (mop up, long relief). Gee is a click better, but is probably no more than a 5-slot guy on a middling team.

The ERA looks bad for Gee ... but i like the k/bb rate so far. And i don't think it's all a fluke ...he has had a nice rate throughtout his MNL career

His upside is probably David Bush ... I think he has chance to have some decent years if he can maintain a low walk rate and solid k-rate ..but the long ball and the fact that he is extremely hittable if ALL his pitches aren't working ... will be his downfall and limit him to the back of the rotation