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 Post subject: The Official 2017 Season Prediction Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:02 am 
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The Nats run away with the division again this year, this time a little later. The Braves make some noise in the division and league while the Marlins have false starts all year mainly due to their starting pitching but their offense and bullpen are in the top 5 in the league. The Mets continue to struggle producing runs and have down years from major bullpen pieces (Salas, Blevins and Reed), just missing the postseason after a loss in a one-game playoff with the Cardinals.

Nats 94-68
Mets 86-76
Marlins 84-78
Braves 83-79
Phillies 64-98

NL Central
Cubs dominate again while the Pirates show a lot of fight for most of the year but fade again due to lack of resources to improve the team. The Cardinals have another winning season although their starting pitching struggles.

Cubs 98-64
Cardinals 86-76 - WC
Pirates 82-80
Brewers 76-86
Reds 67-95

NL West
This is the year all the innings catch up Mad-Bum and he goes under the knife. Cueto also has a down year and they struggle to stay above 500 most of the year. The Rockies are the surprise team this year with a lot of luck and health with their pitching. They ultimately sneak into the postseason in the last week.

Dodgers 96-66
Rockies 87-75 - WC
Giants 83-79
DBacks 78-84
Padres 65-97

AL East
Yankees have a monster offense and their bullpen carries them to the division crown.

Yankees 93-69
Red Sox 90-72 - WC
Blue Jays 86-76
Orioles 83-79
Rays 75-87

NL Central
Don't care.

Indians
Tigers - WC
Royals
White Sox
Twins

NL West
Don't care.

Astros
Rangers
Mariners
Angels
A's





NL Wild Card
Cardinals over Rockies

NLDS
Nats over Dodgers
Cubs over Cardinals

NLCS
Cubs over Nats

AL Wild Card
Red Sox over Tigers

ALDS
Yankees over Indians
Red Sox over Astros

ALCS
Red Sox over Yankees

World Series
Cubs over Red Sox

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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:01 am 
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Nats
Mets - WC
Braves
Marlins
Phillies

NL Central

Cubs
Cardinals - WC
Pirates
Brewers
Reds

NL West

Dodgers
Giants
Rockies
DBacks
Padres

AL East

Red Sox
Yankees - WC
Blue Jays
Orioles
Rays

NL Central

Indians
Tigers
Royals
Twins
White Sox

NL West

Rangers
Astros - WC
Mariners
A's
Angels

NL Wild Card
Mets over Cardinals

NLDS
Dodgers over Nationals
Cubs over Mets

NLCS
Cubs over Dodgers

AL Wild Card
Yankees over Astros

ALDS
Indians over Yankees
Red Sox over Rangers

ALCS
Indians over Red Sox

World Series
Cubs over Indians


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:41 am 
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Some fun twists in there, Ralf.

I got this:

NLE
NYM 90
WAS 88 W
MIA 83
PHI 75
ATL 71

NLC
CHIC 90
STL 86
PIT 82
MIL 76
CIN 65

NLW

LAD 91
SF 89 W
CO 84
AZ 76
SD 61

ALE

BOS 89
TOR 86 W
NYY 83
BAL 79
TAM 79

ALC
CLE 93
DET 87 W
KC 82
CHIS 75
MN 65

ALW
TEX 88
HOU 84
SEA 82
LAA 78
OAK 73


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:11 am 
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I've seen a bunch of folks like the Rockies this year, and thats definitely a non-Mets team I can get behind, I just still don't see how they overcome where they always seem to fail: in that pitching staff. They have a bunch of solid mid rotation guys, but mostly guys that put the ball in play, which is dangerous there, and to be honest, its a lot of the same faces. Jon Gray looks like he could really take a step forward, but not super optimistic on some of the young guys they're really pushing ahead to Coors.

I see them being good, not quite playoff ready.

Similarly, I like the Fish (I always seem to like the Fish). I also think the Braves have a chance to be real pesky as that lineup is goooood. I think this is the year the Pirates go backwards and they have to figure out how to not let the franchise descend into the depths they previously were in.

The Giants have overachieved based on the names there for a while, and I think its finally getting to the point where its going to tilt the other way. And I don't like the Cardinals to continue to just keep winning because they're them. That pitching staff has collectively fallen apart quick, and behind Martinez, I don't love any of them. So a little changing of the guard in the NL I think is in store:

WAS 92
NYM 87 W
MIA 85 W
ATL 81
PHL 71

NLC
CHIC 98
STL 83
MIL 78
PIT 76
CIN 63

NLW
LAD 92
CO 83
AZ 81
SF 77
SD 58

ALE
BOS 91
TOR 86 W
BAL 83
NYY 81
TAM 73

ALC
CLE 92
KC 88 W
DET 85
CHIS 71
MN 68

ALW
HOU 89
SEA 83
TEX 82
OAK 79
LAA 74

NLDS: Cubs over Mets; Nats over Dodgers
ALDS: Cleveland over Jays; Astros over Sawx

NLCS: Cubs over Nats
ALCS: Astros over Indians

WS: Cubs over Astros


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:53 am 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
I've seen a bunch of folks like the Rockies this year, and thats definitely a non-Mets team I can get behind, I just still don't see how they overcome where they always seem to fail: in that pitching staff. They have a bunch of solid mid rotation guys, but mostly guys that put the ball in play, which is dangerous there, and to be honest, its a lot of the same faces. Jon Gray looks like he could really take a step forward, but not super optimistic on some of the young guys they're really pushing ahead to Coors.

I see them being good, not quite playoff ready.

Similarly, I like the Fish (I always seem to like the Fish). I also think the Braves have a chance to be real pesky as that lineup is goooood. I think this is the year the Pirates go backwards and they have to figure out how to not let the franchise descend into the depths they previously were in.

The Giants have overachieved based on the names there for a while, and I think its finally getting to the point where its going to tilt the other way. And I don't like the Cardinals to continue to just keep winning because they're them. That pitching staff has collectively fallen apart quick, and behind Martinez, I don't love any of them. So a little changing of the guard in the NL I think is in store:

WAS 92
NYM 87 W
MIA 86 W
ATL 81
PHL 71

NLC
CHIC 98
STL 83
MIL 80
PIT 77
CIN 63

NLW
LAD 92
CO 83
AZ 81
SF 78
SD 58

ALE
BOS 91
TOR 86 W
BAL 84
NYY 81
TAM 73

ALC
CLE 92
KC 88 W
DET 85
CHIS 72
MN 68

ALW
HOU 89
SEA 83
TEX 82
OAK 79
LAA 76

NLDS: Cubs over Mets; Nats over Dodgers
ALDS: Cleveland over Jays; Astros over Sawx

NLCS: Cubs over Nats
ALCS: Astros over Indians

WS: Cubs over Astros

You got too many wins in there, but anyway, in an attempt to find the one team that has a breakthru in 2017, I kept coming back to the Rox also. I really don't see any other team that looks ready for a breakthru. The Marlins are possible bc their lineup is potentially very strong but working with a bottom third rotation is going to hold them back and I don't see anyone coming thru their system that's close to helping them in any capacity. Yeah, their pen looks deep but you could also see them getting worn out early. Now they're a great fit for Quintana but I don't see where they've got the pieces to pull that off, so to me, unless they get career years from a lot of players simultaneously, they still look like an 84 win team at best.

Back to the Rox, they are a team that you could see putting things together and having 2 doormats in their division (SD may not win 60 games and AZ will stink) should def help their record but in the end I don't think their pitching is as strong as the Dodgers or Giants. I've got them at 84, behind the Dodgers at 91 and Giants at 89. No surprises there.

I guess the Yankees are the other popular pick to jump up in the standings, but again unless they pluck Quintana away from CHIS, which is certainly possible btw, I don't think they can get far enough with a rotation of Tanaka, Pineda, CC, Severino and Mitchell(?) unless there are several surprise years in there.

Aside from those, to me, none of ATL, PHI, MIL, CIN, MIL, AZ, MIN, CHIS, OAK, LAA are nearly good enough to make runs. That leaves teams like SEA, KC, BAL, TAM, PIT still with fringy chances at making playoff noise. I could see KC and TAM as possibly two teams being currently underrated a bit. I think this is the year the smoke and mirrors wears off for BAL tho. With Tillman looking less than 100%, unless some huge leap forward from Bundy and Gausman, which is possible, just not something to count on, I think they fade below .500 this year.


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:51 pm 
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NLE
NYM 94
WAS 93 - WC
ATL 80
MIA 73
PHI 73


NLC
CHIC 95
STL 82
PIT 81
MIL 69
CIN 61

NLW

SF - 94
LAD 91 - WC
CO 84
AZ 71
SD 61

ALE

BOS 93
NYY 87 - WC play in
TOR 82
BAL 82
TAM 71

ALC
CLE 88
DET 87 - WC play in
KC 85
MN 71
CHW - 68

ALW
TEX 94
HOU 92 - WC
SEA 85
LAA 78
OAK 65


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:26 pm 
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I like the Mariners to "surprise" this season

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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:34 pm 
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MarkJohnson>You wrote:
I've seen a bunch of folks like the Rockies this year, and thats definitely a non-Mets team I can get behind, I just still don't see how they overcome where they always seem to fail: in that pitching staff. They have a bunch of solid mid rotation guys, but mostly guys that put the ball in play, which is dangerous there, and to be honest, its a lot of the same faces. Jon Gray looks like he could really take a step forward, but not super optimistic on some of the young guys they're really pushing ahead to Coors.

I see them being good, not quite playoff ready.

Similarly, I like the Fish (I always seem to like the Fish). I also think the Braves have a chance to be real pesky as that lineup is goooood. I think this is the year the Pirates go backwards and they have to figure out how to not let the franchise descend into the depths they previously were in.

The Giants have overachieved based on the names there for a while, and I think its finally getting to the point where its going to tilt the other way. And I don't like the Cardinals to continue to just keep winning because they're them. That pitching staff has collectively fallen apart quick, and behind Martinez, I don't love any of them. So a little changing of the guard in the NL I think is in store:

WAS 92
NYM 87 W
MIA 86 W
ATL 81
PHL 71

NLC
CHIC 98
STL 83
MIL 80
PIT 77
CIN 63

NLW
LAD 92
CO 83
AZ 81
SF 78
SD 58

ALE
BOS 91
TOR 86 W
BAL 84
NYY 81
TAM 73

ALC
CLE 92
KC 88 W
DET 85
CHIS 72
MN 68

ALW
HOU 89
SEA 83
TEX 82
OAK 79
LAA 76

NLDS: Cubs over Mets; Nats over Dodgers
ALDS: Cleveland over Jays; Astros over Sawx

NLCS: Cubs over Nats
ALCS: Astros over Indians

WS: Cubs over Astros

You got too many wins in there, but anyway, in an attempt to find the one team that has a breakthru in 2017, I kept coming back to the Rox also. I really don't see any other team that looks ready for a breakthru. The Marlins are possible bc their lineup is potentially very strong but working with a bottom third rotation is going to hold them back and I don't see anyone coming thru their system that's close to helping them in any capacity. Yeah, their pen looks deep but you could also see them getting worn out early. Now they're a great fit for Quintana but I don't see where they've got the pieces to pull that off, so to me, unless they get career years from a lot of players simultaneously, they still look like an 84 win team at best.

Back to the Rox, they are a team that you could see putting things together and having 2 doormats in their division (SD may not win 60 games and AZ will stink) should def help their record but in the end I don't think their pitching is as strong as the Dodgers or Giants. I've got them at 84, behind the Dodgers at 91 and Giants at 89. No surprises there.

I guess the Yankees are the other popular pick to jump up in the standings, but again unless they pluck Quintana away from CHIS, which is certainly possible btw, I don't think they can get far enough with a rotation of Tanaka, Pineda, CC, Severino and Mitchell(?) unless there are several surprise years in there.

Aside from those, to me, none of ATL, PHI, MIL, CIN, MIL, AZ, MIN, CHIS, OAK, LAA are nearly good enough to make runs. That leaves teams like SEA, KC, BAL, TAM, PIT still with fringy chances at making playoff noise. I could see KC and TAM as possibly two teams being currently underrated a bit. I think this is the year the smoke and mirrors wears off for BAL tho. With Tillman looking less than 100%, unless some huge leap forward from Bundy and Gausman, which is possible, just not something to count on, I think they fade below .500 this year.


Nvm, after consulting with my abacus I do indeed have 9
Too many.

Did you really math check me tho?!


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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Predictions Thread
PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:53 pm 
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I like the Mariners to "surprise" this season


It's certainly interesting watching Jerry Dipoto GM in a context where he's actually allowed to be the general manager.

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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2017 Season Prediction Thread
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:19 pm 
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TomInNC wrote:
Mets win it all. Don't care about the rest of them


That's kind of how I feel, and I'll only predict wins for our division.

Nats - 94
Mets - 92 (hate the Nats)
Braves: 80
Phils: 79
Fish: 73

This way, I don't have to count the wins and make it come to 2430 (or less if there's some missed games).

and just for fun

Padres: 44


Mets win the wildcard. After that - it's up in the air. I'll predict playoffs when we get there.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 5:46 pm 
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Padres: 44

Yeah, that's not going to happen. The Padres are bad, but they're not THAT bad.


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