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 Post subject: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:28 pm 
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I usually don't do this, and maybe I won't finish, but with the mets picking #6 I thought I'd take a look. Doing the teams in order.

#1 - Detroit Tigers

Roster at 39
The Tigers protected 6 players, leaving a few possible candidates exposed, so they have a fairly crowded roster, but if there's a player they like and since they're probably not looking to compete in 2018, they could still select a player too.

https://www.blessyouboys.com/2017/11/20 ... -carpenter

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The Tigers will not be adding infielder Kody Eaves, outfielder Jose Azocar, nor pitchers Adam Ravenelle and Paul Voelker.


I like lefty infielders like Eaves and he's close, but the mets will probably look for a real player, not a rule 5 guy. Azocar has the speed tool but he's raw and struggled to hit in A+. No chance the mets take a guy like that. I don't see the mets selecting a pitcher this rule 5 with their crowding.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:53 pm 
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#2 - SF Giants

Roster at 40.
The Giants protected 4, left a few potentially interesting players exposed. Maybe they pull off a trade with the Marlins to create some room, but right now I don't see how they select anyone. Unlike the Tigers, the Giants are probably in win-now mode and they're not going to crowd their roster with a rule 5 selection I don't think, unless there's someone available that they love.

https://aroundthefoghorn.com/2017/11/20 ... e-5-draft/

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The Giants chose those four over the following:

RHP Sam Coonrod
RHP Jordan Johnson
RHP Tyler Rogers
RHP Rodolfo Martinez
RHP Jake McCasland
RHP Dusten Knight
LHP Matt Gage
3B Jonah Arenado
RHP Ray Black
RHP Ian Gardeck


I'm assuming the mets won't look at RHPs - they have too many as it is. Gage is a 6'4 240 lb lefty, a starter in the minors with poor strikeout numbers. I'm guessing low velocity, but lefty is a plus. His numbers don't stand out.

Jonah Arenado is the younger brother of allstar Nolan Arenado (cough-Coors field-cough) While his away stats aren't bad, it's his home stats that makes him an allstar.

Jonah repeated A+ with a strong 2nd half and like a lot of international signings, he hit rule 5 probably before he should. There's perhaps some upside there, but he doesn't draw walks and he's probably not ready. Probably a long-shot.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:16 pm 
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#3 Phillies

The Phils added 5 and their roster stands at 40. - another crowded roster. (getting to be a theme).

https://sports.yahoo.com/phillies-add-4 ... 25091.html

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Notable players who were not protected include outfielders Carlos Tocci and Andrew Pullin and pitcher Brandon Leibrandt.


Tocci is an OF who was discussed in the other rule-5 thread. 22 year old high average CF. Might get selected early.

Pullin is a lefty OF, converted from 2nd base, who hit well this year in AA. Leibrandt is another lefty starting pitcher with "meh" K rate, stat wise, he kind of reminds me of Gage for what that's worth. Both are a little interesting to me as a mets-fan. Not sure either one is a yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:26 pm 
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#4 Whitesox

The Whities (can I call them whities or is that racist?) . . . anyhoo.

The Whitesox added 5 and their roster stands at 39. They're clearly in rebuil mode so they could make a rule 5 selection this December.

I didn't see a writeup of the Whitesox unprotected players, but from the MLB list, #21 Jordan Guerrero, a left starting pitcher in AA is unprotected and Luis Martinez, a 6'6 righty pitcher who struggled in A+ this year. Given their deep system, there might be a couple more whitesox of interest.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:45 pm 
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#5 Reds

The Reds protected 6 players, their roster stands at 39, so they can make a selection.

https://www.redreporter.com/2017/11/20/ ... -jose-siri

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several other notable, eligible players were not selected. Included among them are former 1st round pick Nick Howard, former 2nd rounder Taylor Sparks, toolsy Cuban OF Reydel Medina, slugger Gavin LaValley, and Tommy John-recoverer Wyatt Strahan, among many others.


Nick Howard's walk numbers are hilarious. Not even worth discussing. (deduct 2 points from the author of that article).

Taylor Sparks is a 3rd baseman who can't hit - again, pass. (and deduct 2 more points from . . . )

Medina may be toolsy but he's not ready. LaValley's moved to 1st base bull time and again, I don't see it.

Strahan might be a tiny bit interesting to a team willing to select a tommy john guy for rule 5. Mets won't do that. Nobody worth selecting here, me thinks.


I'm going to stop here for how, but first 6 teams.

Tigers - might select
Giants - won't select
Phillies - won't select
Whitesox - might select
Reds - might select.

Mets could get the 4th overall selection this December. Not sure they use it, but it's possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:21 pm 
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Everyone here knows the mets. Roster is at 39. Potential losses Uceta & Jannis.

#7 - Padres protected just 2 (including 6'9 Brad Wieck). Their roster stands at 40, so they probably won't select either.

http://eastvillagetimes.com/2017/11/san ... ion-marks/

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The Padres have no shortage of older relief pitchers, with T.J. Weir, Eric Yardley, Brad Wieck, and Adam Cimber all fitting that bill, as all are at least 26 years of age and draft eligible. Beyond those two, Gerardo Reyes, Jose Castillo, and Yimmi Brasoban are a few other younger names to potentially look at.


The Pads protected Wieck & Castillo,

Weir is a 26 year old RH relief pitcher who puts up good stats and solid K rate. A little interesting.

Yardley and Cimber are kinda similar, both are 26, and put up solid relief pitcher numbers in MiLB.

Gerardo Reyes is interesting. A 24 year old, undrafted (from Mexico) with a "funky" sidearm motion and he touches 97. He walks too many and he's in high-A so I don't think he gets selecdted but there's a bit of upside.

Finally Yimmi Brasoban is a tough guy to get a read on. Had some elbow issues and pitched 28 innings rather badly in 2017. Was a top 20 Padre prospect 2015 and 2016.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:36 pm 
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#8 Braves

The Braves added 4 players bringing their roster up to 40.

https://www.foxsports.com/south/story/a ... ery-112017

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leaving notable prospects Travis Demeritte, Dustin Peterson and Tyler Pike, among others, left unprotected in next month’s Rule 5 Draft


Demeritte is an infielder who's mostly played 2nd base in the minors with some pop but sometimes a low average and too many Ks. A former 1st round pick, he's still young (22).

Peterson's a former 2nd round pick who moved from 3B to the OF and had an off year last year hitting in AAA. I don't see it.

Pike is a lefty starter (in the minors) with modest stuff, touches 93, works 88-91. Was a control guy in college but has walked a lot of guys in the minors. Lefties have an edge but I'm still not feeling it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:47 pm 
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#9 - A's

The A's protected 5, cut 2 and their roster stands at 20.

https://www.athleticsnation.com/2017/11 ... le-5-draft

The talk is on who they cut.

Sam Moll was cut. The article suggests he's org filler as a lefty.

and Jaycob Brugman who was acquired by the O's. a CF with perhaps a borderline glove but OK bat. Draws some walks.

They left Casey Meisner unprotected but I don't see him being taken.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:11 pm 
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#10 Pirates

The Pirates protected 3 and their roster stands at 38 with a trade, so they could draft one or even two this rule 5.

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http://piratesbreakdown.com/2017/11/20/ ... -man-2018/

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notable prospects in SP Tyler Eppler, RP Yeudy Garcia and INF Adrian Valerio — all among the Pirates’ top 30 prospects — were in danger of being selected


Yeudy Garcia - RHP (#19 MLB.com) had a poor 2017 but was solid in 2016/2015. Garcia's an older DSL player who's a converted pitcher and who was signed at 20. Reports are that he's talented but poor numbers and high walk rate, the Pirates left him unprotected. I could see a bad team taking a gamble on him if they have room.

They also left Tyler Eppler - RHP unprotected, some thought he was deserving of protection.

Finally Valerio is a YOUNG (still 20), low A shortstop who put together his best season at the plate. A $400,000 international signing, defensive specialist who (did I mention he's in low-A) and he doesn't walk, so he's got a ways to go but there's some upside there for a team that might be willing to stunt his growth. Pirates are gambling, perhaps correctly, that nobody will take him.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:28 pm 
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#11, Orioles

The O's protected 3 players and their roster stands at (wait for it) . . . . . . . drumroll and all that. 34. Yes, 34. So they can go shopping this rule 5.

They also traded for the A's OF who was already on the A's 40. They could make a few more trades as well and they have some money to spend this off-season. I'd expect them to be savy bargain hunters, like the mets, but time will tell.

They don't have much of interest unprotected. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orio ... story.html

Randolph Gassaway is a bit left fielder who hit 340 in A ball in 2016 but just .265 with no power in 2017. I don't see him getting taken.

John Means is a mediocre lefty starter who maybe gets snagged if a team wants to gamble on a lefty.

O's will make some more moves I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:04 pm 
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#12 - Jays

The BJs are said by some to be in a tough spot this rule 5 with a number of players who might be protection worthy. They protected 5, traded for 1 more Gift Ngoepe from the Pirates and their roster stands at 39.

I'm guessing they'll use that last spot for a free agent, not rule 5. I don't think they're in tank mode.

Max Pentacoste is a nice prospect if he can catch, but that's pretty uncertain right now. Jays are gambling nobody will take the Catcher who's caught just 30 games in 4 years, even if he's a former first round pick.

Still, a team might risk the upside and DL him (Pirates?) - time will tell.

Jordon Romano is a possibly nice reliever who's a starter in the minors, touches 95, high spin rate and has a Tommy John in his past. With all the exposed RHPs I don't think he gets selected but there's a chance.

Angel Perdomo might be worth a gamble. He wasn't as good in 2017 but after 2016 some people ranked him in the Jay's top 10. A young, 6'6 lefty with upside. Even with the less good 2017 I think he's a target. (Os?)

https://jaysjournal.com/2017/01/31/toro ... l-perdomo/

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 Post subject: Re: Rule-5 draft 2017 by team
PostPosted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:02 pm 
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Everyone here knows the mets. Roster is at 39. Potential losses Uceta & Jannis.

#7 - Padres protected just 2 (including 6'9 Brad Wieck). Their roster stands at 40, so they probably won't select either.

http://eastvillagetimes.com/2017/11/san ... ion-marks/

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The Padres have no shortage of older relief pitchers, with T.J. Weir, Eric Yardley, Brad Wieck, and Adam Cimber all fitting that bill, as all are at least 26 years of age and draft eligible. Beyond those two, Gerardo Reyes, Jose Castillo, and Yimmi Brasoban are a few other younger names to potentially look at.


The Pads protected Wieck & Castillo,

Weir is a 26 year old RH relief pitcher who puts up good stats and solid K rate. A little interesting.

Yardley and Cimber are kinda similar, both are 26, and put up solid relief pitcher numbers in MiLB.

Gerardo Reyes is interesting. A 24 year old, undrafted (from Mexico) with a "funky" sidearm motion and he touches 97. He walks too many and he's in high-A so I don't think he gets selecdted but there's a bit of upside.

Finally Yimmi Brasoban is a tough guy to get a read on. Had some elbow issues and pitched 28 innings rather badly in 2017. Was a top 20 Padre prospect 2015 and 2016.


Uh oh. A side arming relief pitcher who throws hard. I wonder if the Mets will be able to avoid the temptation?


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