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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Havens 3 for 4, 2 runs, HR, 2 RBI, BB, K, .368


The Uggla is out of his cage!!


Pretty much.

He's gonna "breakout" in 2010, whatever that means. His Isos were great in 2009, so to me, he's already broken out.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Havens' progress at the plate and his transition to 2nd base have me giddy...

In Havens (2B), Thole (C) and Davis (1B), the Mets potentially have 3 above average position players that should be here in mid-late 2010 or early 2011...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kenny Powers wrote:
How far away is Havens?


Great plate discipline and very good bat speed, with a pretty compact stroke. All reasons the bat should move quickly (and why it's no huge surprise he's hitting here with no experience at AA). Really, some of the same reasons I was confident Murphy or Thole would hit at higher levels as far as an advanced approach and short swing, but with better bat speed than either of those guys. Basically, Murphy might have as much natural power, but Havens is more aggressive in really looking for a ball to drive.

He almost reminds me of David Wright when he came through as far as the plate discipline and quick bat, but not as much power as that. He's very dangerous down and in, where he was able to lay off breaking balls other guys at this level chase, and crush anything left in the zone. Apparently he had a habit of dropping his hands too low early and was vulnerable up, which Toby Hyde says he has been working recently on correcting in the AFL by starting his hands higher.

While the above describes Havens at his best, he also had stretches where his timing seemed to be off and he didn't look like the same guy. When he's locked in though, he is pretty impressive. I used to think he projected as something like Khalil Greene, but at this point I think that's too pessimistic. He'll have the 15+ HR power, but will also have a decent OBP. Maybe more like Stephen Drew.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, Havens has the best upside potential of any Met Prospect

When you're a middle infielder prospect with his power and OBP potential ... he has the best shot at making multiple allstar appearances over the course of his career than any current Met prospect
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Venezuela:

Josh Thole was 2-4 with a run and an RBI for Caracas.

Lance Broadway gave up a run over 6 innings to pick up a W for Caracas.

Jose Coronado was 0-4 for Caribes.

Luis Alen was 1-1 with a run scored for Caribes.

Chris Carter was 1-4 for Aragua.

Manuel Olivares pitched 2.1 scoreless innings for Zulia.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thole continues his Rolle.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puerto Rico:

Roy Merritt gave up a run in an inning for Mayaguez.

Jose De La Torre....

Well....



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# Pitcher Change: Jose De La Torre replaces Saul Rivera.
# Prentice Redman walks. Iggy Suarez scores. Greg Picart to 3rd. Raul Gonzalez to 2nd.
# Gabriel Martinez doubles (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Edgardo Baez. Greg Picart scores. Raul Gonzalez scores. Prentice Redman scores.
# Lou Palmisano flies out to right fielder Edgardo Baez.
# Reggie Abercrombie doubles (2) on a fly ball to left fielder Lou Montanez. Gabriel Martinez scores.
# Miguel Abreu triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Edgardo Baez. Reggie Abercrombie scores.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

R Nitelight wrote:
Puerto Rico:

Roy Merritt gave up a run in an inning for Mayaguez.

Jose De La Torre....

Well....



Quote:
# Pitcher Change: Jose De La Torre replaces Saul Rivera.
# Prentice Redman walks. Iggy Suarez scores. Greg Picart to 3rd. Raul Gonzalez to 2nd.
# Gabriel Martinez doubles (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Edgardo Baez. Greg Picart scores. Raul Gonzalez scores. Prentice Redman scores.
# Lou Palmisano flies out to right fielder Edgardo Baez.
# Reggie Abercrombie doubles (2) on a fly ball to left fielder Lou Montanez. Gabriel Martinez scores.
# Miguel Abreu triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Edgardo Baez. Reggie Abercrombie scores.



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Least he got an out. Saul Rivera gave up 4 runs without getting one.

BTW - is Rivera still Nats property? He might be a good gamble to take.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dominican Republic:

Fernando Tatis was 0-5 with a run scored for Estrellas.

Argenis Reyes was 1-4 with a run scored for Escogido.

Tobi Stoner gave up 3 runs in 5.2 innings for Escogido. 6 hits, 3 walks, 2 Ks.

Wilson Valdez was 1-3 for Gigantes.

Anderson Hernandez was 3-5 with 2 runs scored for Licey.

Francisco Pena was 0-1 for Aguilas.



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