The guy to trade at the trade deadline

northway · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:42 am

R Nitelight wrote:

pennst92 wrote:

Because they don't have a replacement who would be a clear upgrade of Murphy right now. I am curious who your solution is...or if you even have one?

Well, I'm not going to find one as long as I'm satisfied to keep running him out there.

Would you be objecting if he was putting up the numbers he did last year?

hotlyds87 · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:27 am **Posts:** 4369

Trading Murph away right now reminds me of when we traded FOR Mike Bordick in 2000. That guy was having a ridiculously good half season when we got him, and of course the law of averages kicked in and he stunk. Murph has proven himself capable of hitting .300 with a .350 OBP and doubles power - I think we should let him get hot again before trading him away so he can have a hot second half for someone else.

Our problem isn't offense anyway - the only way I trade Murph is if I get a really good setup guy back in the deal.

northway · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:03 pm

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

R Nitelight · **Joined:** Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:12 pm **Posts:** 32524

northway wrote:

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

I actually wouldn't mind bringing him off the bench.

The less he plays, the more I like him.

But as long as he's here the temptation to over-play him is something they can't seem to resist.

hotlyds87 · **Joined:** Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:27 am **Posts:** 4369

northway wrote:

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

He's the best option right now, and looks like the best option for the next few years unless Valdespin develops some discipline or Havens starts performing. There are so few good/great 2B, it's hard to imagine a FA or trade acquisition will bring much more than a marginal upgrade and certainly cost a lot more.

Metro2007 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 12:17 pm

Bill Maher is worth "only" about 30 million. He was simply a figure head of a group that bought one share. Bill Maher doesn't have "help the mets payroll" money.

jdawginsc · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:02 pm

northway wrote:

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

Not true. I'd like to see us maximize his value

...he is not going to be a Met in 2013 unless Sandy fails to fill 2B again...remember that Sandy was not sold on Murphy in the off-season. That said, if they completely stand pat, I am okay with that decision. I can respect going coast to coast with off-season roster construction.

What I don't want is short-sighted purchases at the expense of the future.

thebull · **Joined:** Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:37 am **Posts:** 8259

jdawginsc wrote:

northway wrote:

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

Not true. I'd like to see us maximize his value

...he is not going to be a Met in 2013 unless Sandy fails to fill 2B again...remember that Sandy was not sold on Murphy in the off-season. That said, if they completely stand pat, I am okay with that decision. I can respect going coast to coast with off-season roster construction.

What I don't want is short-sighted purchases at the expense of the future.

Finding an upgrade at 2B is going to be harder than you might think, it wouldn't be a "failure" by Sandy. It certainly won't come thru free agency.

jdawginsc · **Posted:** Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:32 pm

Again, I am fine with riding the season out with Murphy. I just don't expect to see him in spring 2013 starting at second base.

pd8779 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:19 pm **Posts:** 391

hotlyds87 wrote:

northway wrote:

No one with the possible exception of Nitey is pushing to trade Murphy. We're just objecting to the notion of him as the anointed one at second base.

He's the best option right now, and looks like the best option for the next few years unless Valdespin develops some discipline or Havens starts performing. There are so few good/great 2B, it's hard to imagine a FA or trade acquisition will bring much more than a marginal upgrade and certainly cost a lot more.

I agree 100% with this! Murphy is the best option the Mets have for the next few years. Valdespin needs to improve his walk rate and his defense. Also, he needs to grow up some.

IlikeIKE · **Joined:** Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:21 pm **Posts:** 4122

Havens is coming on strong

pd8779 · **Joined:** Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:19 pm **Posts:** 391

Reese Havens still has long way to go before he makes it to the big leagues. Best case scenario is Sept. 2013. More likely 2014.

The guy to trade at the trade deadline

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