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 Post subject: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:31 pm 
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Thing: 2012 MLB Amateur Draft
Date: Monday, June 4
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NYFS Draft Forum: viewforum.php?f=15

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Draft Rumors Thread: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=36909

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“The Mets want to show that last year’s Brandon Nimmo pick was not an anomaly, and they are truly focused on upside over cost certainty. … McCullers has as much velocity as any healthy high school arm in the draft, and is considered signable.”


Should be a fun day tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:35 pm 
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i asked in another thread.

I don't have MLBtv and if someone can post video of mets pick and recap i would appreciate it so much. I want to see what the experts say


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:46 pm 
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Thing: 2012 MLB Amateur Draft
Date: Monday, June 4
Time: 7:00 PM
TV: MLB Network

NYFS Draft Forum: http://nyfuturestars.com/community/viewforum.php?f=15

Community Mock Draft: http://nyfuturestars.com/community/view ... 15&t=37005

Draft Rumors Thread: http://nyfuturestars.com/community/view ... 15&t=36909

Kevin Goldstein teaser:

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“The Mets want to show that last year’s Brandon Nimmo pick was not an anomaly, and they are truly focused on upside over cost certainty. … McCullers has as much velocity as any healthy high school arm in the draft, and is considered signable.”


Should be a fun day tomorrow.


Callis and Law both say we also like some of the college pitching and Cecchini (who doesn't have a ton of upside) so there doesn't seem to be a consensus.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
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i asked in another thread.

I don't have MLBtv and if someone can post video of mets pick and recap i would appreciate it so much. I want to see what the experts say



Trust me once the pick is made you will have hundreds of "expert" opinions posted in the draft thread from various sources. You won't be missing much not seeing it on TV. Harold Reynolds is no "expert" on the MLB draft nor is Peter Gammons.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:17 pm 
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With 5 (12, 35, 71, 75, and 107) of the first 107 picks, I feel that this draft will define Depo's tenure with us. Having said that, I'd be very happy if we could land Hawkins or Dahl at 12.

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I'm confused by the statement that Cecchini doesn't have huge upside. I've heard nothing to indicate that...furthermore in the few mocks I've seen he's a first rounder, going in the mid-first round.

Admittedly I'm not one to follow prospects as closely as I once did, but I think if a kid is generally rated fairly high across the board he's got some upside...

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I'm confused by the statement that Cecchini doesn't have huge upside. I've heard nothing to indicate that...furthermore in the few mocks I've seen he's a first rounder, going in the mid-first round.

Admittedly I'm not one to follow prospects as closely as I once did, but I think if a kid is generally rated fairly high across the board he's got some upside...

He has solid tools across the board and is a ss. I'd rather go with Dahl or Hawkins bat wise, hs pitchers Giolito or McCullers, college arms Stroman or Wacha.


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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
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Btw, I could definitely see one or two major players falling to us with someone having a surprise early pick or 2. Always happens.

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I'm confused by the statement that Cecchini doesn't have huge upside. I've heard nothing to indicate that...furthermore in the few mocks I've seen he's a first rounder, going in the mid-first round.

Admittedly I'm not one to follow prospects as closely as I once did, but I think if a kid is generally rated fairly high across the board he's got some upside...



He's got limited upside. Almost every single "expert" agrees. Where he's projected to go doesn't dictate if he has upside or not. He's got an average glove with upside to be above average there. Baseball instincts said his overall upside was probably Yunel Escobar with a little less pop. A solid player no doubt but not one with big-time upside. Keith Law called him a "safe" HS player with utility player floor. Most experts also have him going in the 17-30 range if the Mets don't take him at 12. This is a very weak draft in terms of projected "stars" so his first round grade doesn't really say a whole lot. Of the names mentioned in connection to the Mets he probably has the least upside but might be "safer" than some of the other HS options.

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If Hawkins falls to us at 12, Sandy could choose Elmer Fudd, Wile E Coyote and Mr. Ed with the next three choices and I'd sleep happy.

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 Post subject: Re: 2012 Mets Draft Primer
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I'm confused by the statement that Cecchini doesn't have huge upside. I've heard nothing to indicate that...furthermore in the few mocks I've seen he's a first rounder, going in the mid-first round.

Admittedly I'm not one to follow prospects as closely as I once did, but I think if a kid is generally rated fairly high across the board he's got some upside...



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The younger Cecchini first and foremost is an athlete. His 6’1″ 180 lb frame is thin, strong and, combined with his impressive fielding skills, will allow him to stick at shortstop as he matures. Gavin’s arm, speed and hit tools all grade between solid to above-average, which all play up due to his impressive baseball instincts and intelligence, making him as good a bet to make it to the Majors as any prep position player in the draft. Some can see a Yunel Escobar-like upside with Cecchini, though I don’t like the bat nearly as much. Still, as low as replacement-level value is for shortstops, Cecchini could become a very strong option at the position.

What to Loath: While all of Gavin’s tools are good, none of them are spectacular. His strongest skill is his defense, which is exactly what you want to see from a high school shortstop. However, with nothing more than projected 50-55’s on the rest of his scouting report, it may be hard to justify selecting him with a pick in the top-third of the first round. Gavin’s worst tools may very well lie in his bat; both his power and hitting ability are almost entirely based in the abstract at this point. Though any team would want a fundamentally sound and proficient defender at short, the Padres would likely want more of an offensive force from that position if all things are equal.


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