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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:08 am 
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Love Kelenic, but Stewart was the goods. Sounds like they may have low-balled him.


It's very possible, seems Anthopolous has a bit of a history with this issue.


They have to have offered 40% to maintain the slot. So at least they offered that. Seems to me, a better percentage would be flipped.... 2/3 of slot. Yes, it takes a bit of leverage out of the hands of the teams, but protects the good faith in signing the drafted player.


Yea, I think it would be telling to know what they offered. If they hit 60% or higher, at least it seems like they are working with him. If it's 40% on the nose, you have to imagine they either think his hand looks like Chubs' from Happy Gilmore, or they are trying to screw the kid.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:49 am 
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Lets have 500 6-7th inning types and no SP's or average or better regulars in the system. Sounds like a good plan.

Yeah that's my take on Callis's reaction as well.

Here is my Mets shadow draft:

1) Singer or Gilbert RHSP FL/Stetson Jr hasn't played
2) Alek Thomas L/L OFer, HS 313/380/438 in 72 PAs in AZL
3) Blaine Knight RHSP Ark, Jr hasn't played
4) Grant Witherspoon, L/L CFer, Tulane Jr 230/314/246 in 71PAs in Appy
5) Austin Cox, LHSP Mercer, Jr 6 hits, 3 BBs, 23Ks in 11.2IP in Appy
6) Andrew Moritz, L/R OFer UNCG Jr 328/400/466 in 65PAs in Appy
7) Nick Podkul, R/R 3B NotreDame Jr 256/388/462 in 49PAs in NWL
8 ) Joey Murray, RHSP Kent State Jr 8IP, 6 hits, 0ER, 4BB, 14Ks in NWL
9) BMdO, RHP, Miss Sr hasn't played
10) Mike Gretler, R/R 3B, Oregon State Sr .775 OPS (5 games NYPL)

FWIW, this shadow group looks pretty good so far. Witherspoon the only blemish thus far.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:23 am 
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Thing about all the guys going to school and the teams getting comp picks: Pushes the Mets second-round pick down even more. :(

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:54 am 
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Thing about all the guys going to school and the teams getting comp picks: Pushes the Mets second-round pick down even more. :(


That's true, but have faith, with the exception of vientos I'm not sure the Mets care what the consensus pick should be with their second rounders


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:59 pm 
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Matt Wallner sounds really interesting but not a ton out there on him..

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:01 pm 
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College bat, COF, LHH, huge kid at 6'5 but said to be very athletic, good plate discipline (draws walks & hits for avg), big time power potential and big arm (throws mid 90's on the mound) projected to be taken right after the 2 college catchers, so top 7-10.


So early to look at mock drafts though....

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Yeah, and if you're using the "He's 19" logic, then I guess the best report a scout could give us is:


"I have no idea. He's a teenager. He may go through 5 arm surgeries between now and his 30th birthday. He may add a pitch. He may lose a pitch. He may put on 30 lbs and add velocity. He may put on 50 lbs and eat his way out of the league. I literally have no idea what he is going to be."

But thats not what these guys are paid to do, nor what we are looking for them to do, right?


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:59 pm 
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Cold weather guy Mets like those.

Early for mocks but easy to see it will be an up year for collage bats and down for pitching.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 DRAFT!!!!
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:59 pm 
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Daaaarryyl wrote:
College bat, COF, LHH, huge kid at 6'5 but said to be very athletic, good plate discipline (draws walks & hits for avg), big time power potential and big arm (throws mid 90's on the mound) projected to be taken right after the 2 college catchers, so top 7-10.


So early to look at mock drafts though....


I'll be interested to watch more Wallner this year, but I can tell you that the Collegiate National team has been involved in pitching duel after pitching duel in their exhibitions this summer, and for the most part the bats have been rather silent. Meanwhile, despite being very productive, most of the pitchers on the team do not really have the type of explosive stuff to match the zeroes they are posting. Witt and Rutschman better ball-out, because even though there is always interesting talent, the overall narrative will probably be one of question mark after question mark beyond the top-10. Wallner might be Exhibit-A of this. On the surface I wonder if he's much different than Greyson Jenista. Going by the statline it looks like Wallner has gotten to his game power earlier on, but I think Jenista has the edge in athleticism and speed. Wallner is getting mentioned 10-15 (not much different than Jenista at this time last year), but Jenista falls to 49th in 2018.


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