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 Post subject: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:35 am 
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AAA Gagnon
AA Molina
A+ TBD
Columbia Kay
DSL1
DSL2


AAA
Evans 1-3, BB
Kaczmarski 1-4, K
Torres 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walks 3 k's

AA
Alonso 3-4, 2 2b
McNeil 0-2, 2 BB
Mazeika 0-3, BB (Last 10 games .188, has been awful all season)
Tebow 1-4, 2b

A+
Gimenez 0-3, BB, K
Paez 0-4
Lindsay 0-4, K
Prevost 4.2 innings 12 hits 4 ER 1 walk 5 k's
Nogosek 1.1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 2 walks 1 k
Zanghi 1.1 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 1 k

Columbia
Gladu 3-4, 2b
Sanchez 1-4, K
TIberi 0-3, BB, 2 k's (HORRENDOUS season... 2 for his last 33)
Winaker 0-3, BB, K
Brodey 1-4 3 k's
Cavallaro 6 innings 6 hits 0 runs 0 walks 7 k's (Should be promoted already)
Villines 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's

DSL
Consuegra 1-3, BB
Dominguez 5 innings 6 hits 1 run 0 walks 4 k's
Hernandez 2-5, 3 k's

Was told by a writer yesterday in his 7 years doing his job this is "easily" the least interesting farm system the Mets have ever had and outside of "who knows?" with teenagers he doesn't see even above average regulars outside of maybe Alonso.

Confirmed Dunn's first start with AA was unimpressive to scouts. Said he's seen McNeil "many" times and never saw him as a regular but acknowledged this season each time he's seen him he's hit rockets (
Those who have seen Mauricio like him but don't see "wow" factor like some of the phenoms in other systems

Consuegra has some mild buzz, very far away


Scouts also said Junior Santos is the kind of project that "Who knows?" but a name to file away

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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:57 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:43 am 
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At least Alonso balled last night.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:24 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:35 am 
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Good thing we drafted a new batch of bad players to replace the current ones we have in the minors.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:41 am 
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MetsWhiz93 wrote:
Good thing we drafted a new batch of bad players to replace the current ones we have in the minors.

This is about where I am on the draft and the system. I'm probably slightly less dire about the system than the OP portrays it. I'm also largely unimpressed with the top ten round selections of the '18 draft. I think we may have done nicely (relatively) down draft some, but overall I don't think any impact will be felt for a good while. And coupling that with a dearth of impact talent in low A, the near term isn't getting a lot better.

It all really screams out for a couple of sell trades next month that will add some talent... and more than just a handful of RPers.


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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:42 am 
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Metro2007 wrote:
AAA Gagnon
AA Molina
A+ TBD
Columbia Kay
DSL1
DSL2


AAA
Evans 1-3, BB
Kaczmarski 1-4, K
Torres 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walks 3 k's

AA
Alonso 3-4, 2 2b
McNeil 0-2, 2 BB
Mazeika 0-3, BB (Last 10 games .188, has been awful all season)
Tebow 1-4, 2b

A+
Gimenez 0-3, BB, K
Paez 0-4
Lindsay 0-4, K
Prevost 4.2 innings 12 hits 4 ER 1 walk 5 k's
Nogosek 1.1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 2 walks 1 k
Zanghi 1.1 innings 2 hits 0 runs 0 walks 1 k

Columbia
Gladu 3-4, 2b
Sanchez 1-4, K
TIberi 0-3, BB, 2 k's (HORRENDOUS season... 2 for his last 33)
Winaker 0-3, BB, K
Brodey 1-4 3 k's
Cavallaro 6 innings 6 hits 0 runs 0 walks 7 k's (Should be promoted already)
Villines 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's

DSL
Consuegra 1-3, BB
Dominguez 5 innings 6 hits 1 run 0 walks 4 k's
Hernandez 2-5, 3 k's

Was told by a writer yesterday in his 7 years doing his job this is "easily" the least interesting farm system the Mets have ever had and outside of "who knows?" with teenagers he doesn't see even above average regulars outside of maybe Alonso.

Confirmed Dunn's first start with AA was unimpressive to scouts. Said he's seen McNeil "many" times and never saw him as a regular but acknowledged this season each time he's seen him he's hit rockets (
Those who have seen Mauricio like him but don't see "wow" factor like some of the phenoms in other systems

Consuegra has some mild buzz, very far away


Scouts also said Junior Santos is the kind of project that "Who knows?" but a name to file away



Including Gimenez? Or does he consider him one of those "who knows," teens?


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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:08 pm 
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Stanley Consuegra has a 3-run homer over the CF fence, 2nd home run of the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:08 pm 
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He ranked Gimenez the top guy in the system so I have to assume he's included with the other teens. Didn't think he's a star though.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
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HeyNowHK wrote:
This is about where I am on the draft and the system. I'm probably slightly less dire about the system than the OP portrays it. I'm also largely unimpressed with the top ten round selections of the '18 draft. I think we may have done nicely (relatively) down draft some, but overall I don't think any impact will be felt for a good while. And coupling that with a dearth of impact talent in low A, the near term isn't getting a lot better.

It all really screams out for a couple of sell trades next month that will add some talent... and more than just a handful of RPers.



I don't know what happened, but this team has zero clue how to value skills or ability. For batters, they value hit tool and really nothing else, which works if you can really scout the hit tool. They cannot. They also don't value defense, so they have the same kind of player in the system (undersized, hit tool probably two grades below where they thought and probably a first baseman at best at the next level).

There's not a single angle where this team is enjoyable.

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 Post subject: Re: Mets Minors 6/14/2018-Awful... AGAIN- Some notes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:11 pm 
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Metro2007 wrote:
He ranked Gimenez the top guy in the system so I have to assume he's included with the other teens. Didn't think he's a star though.


Mets don't draft stars :cry:


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